Social conservatism

People who are interested in conservatism are interested in conserving what we have. Therefore almost by definition, conservatives are going to be people who society is working pretty well for. Those with stable jobs, with property and wealth, with no or minimal discrimination, and with no reason to change the status quo. It's not a massive surprise, for example, so see Muslims who are far more socially conservative than the most ardent UKIP supporter become left wing when they live in a society where they're a minority and society doesn't work in their favour (that's a badly worded sentence - I don't mean to suggest that all Muslims fit into this category, just that I've seen some that are very socially conservative who support Labour).
 
I'm With Stupid said:
People who are interested in conservatism are interested in conserving what we have. Therefore almost by definition, conservatives are going to be people who society is working pretty well for. Those with stable jobs, with property and wealth, with no or minimal discrimination, and with no reason to change the status quo. It's not a massive surprise, for example, so see Muslims who are far more socially conservative than the most ardent UKIP supporter become left wing when they live in a society where they're a minority and society doesn't work in their favour (that's a badly worded sentence - I don't mean to suggest that all Muslims fit into this category, just that I've seen some that are very socially conservative who support Labour).
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I’ve often said Labour and Islam is a match made in hell. It’s going to come to a head at some point, not necessarily violence but a big falling out. A bit like the trans vs feminism conflict.

When you have Muslim parents protesting LGBT schools, I don’t see how that will register in a positive manner with Labour HQ.

Obviously I am making a very generalised point but Islam is very conservative, you are quite right.

Regarding your first point, the poorest in society now vote Tory so I don’t quite agree. Labour has become the Party of the Middle Class.
 
Labours vote was pretty much even between working and middle class wasn’t it? Just nowhere near enough in either.
 
Id say the majority in this country are economically to the left yet socially to the right in their views.

Unfortunately there is no natural home for these voters and a choice is always forced upon them with them nearly always choosing the Conservatives.
 
Interesting thread.

Think it needs clearing up the difference between Social Conservatism as a movement and being socially conservative (I believe there is a difference although one can lead to the horrors of the other).

Like has been said in posts before traditionally Labour voters were economically to the left (socialist policies) but held socially Right-Wing views.

Labour has increased it's middle class support, mostly kids of the working class who have gone to University and are socially liberal and have no interest in religion (like me), that has impacted the perception of Labour amongst it's traditional base.

My dad is a prime example of the traditional Labour voter moving away from the party and this is down to holding socially conservative values. He is anti-EU, he is anti-immigration, he is pro capital punishment and he is very patriotic, although is anti-monarchy.

These are all emotional topics that are easier to manipulate then economic policy, unsurprisingly UKIP picked up his vote.
 
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