Something is wrong that we dont know about..

[deano ou812]

the players have hit a wall, and are now struggling for form like villa last season started well then went off the boil,also some are burnout and jaded and need taking out of the team for three or four games to recharge the batteries, some players have only come back from injuries and need a run of games to get back to form ireland for instance great player but needs a run of games to hit peak level,not going to happen if one game plays then next he's on last five mins..

 

[Blue Suede Shoes]

I think it's more to do with confidence mate. Underlying problems would affect players over a longer period in my opinion. We just had a bad day yesterday. The same players could put an entirely different performance in on Tuesday.

Yeah, but that's just it. Where does that lack of confidence come from? It's not the manager, evidently, doesn't seem to be the players. For all we know it could be the lady that brings the tea that goes "ooh, tough game this, lads, it's not like it was in the old days eh?" :)

But yeah, something needs to be done about it, that's for sure.

 

[Revolver]

I think that one of the main problem is one that we can see, namely that for whatever reason our team is constantly changing. This can't be helping consistency especially in defence. I would be interested to know when we last played an unchanged team.

 

[Marvin]

I have thought about this a lot and I've come to this conclusion.

My background,I coach another team sport at a fairly decent level and invest a lot of time into researching what makes teams click and how to keep them up.

I've had snap judgements this year,namely against Gareth Barry.Shadow of his villa days.But the more I think about it the more I see it's bigger then him;

Barry,as discussed.

Stephen Ireland,looks mentally exhausted and completely depressed.

Robinho,completely lost "it"

Jo,Never got going.

The list can go on.

Now these players above have proved they can play at a decent level,so I ask you what is wrong?

I would be purely speculating as to what but something off the field is definitely affecting our players in a detrimental fashion.

It obviously wasnt Mark Hughes as there has been no change and I hesitate to blame Mancini either.

I am not talking about tactics here guys,I am saying these players look defeated walking onto the field!

IMO City need to get some decent external sports psychologists into Carrington fast.

I think you need a psychologist. The statement you make is one you could make of teams in the bottom 6, not top 6.

 

[RACHACE]

I dont think any shrinks are needed tbh.

I just think that instead of Mancini trying to be cute with his tactics he should basically match man for man against teams like Hull and get them fired up for the battle. We should be creating more chances than teams like Hull whether at home or away.

He is just trying to be a bit too clever imo and that is stopping most of our players playing their natural game.

He is a bright guy though so surely he will notice this, he even said that if we played like we did in the 2nd half we will finish top 4. At 2-0 down I suppose all you can do is attack but for me we should be starting the game like that.

 

[smudgedj]

What are you talking about getting some psychologists into coms? Then what..Lawyers, shrinks??? Hell we already have too much of that rubbish with these sports Scientists etc. No, the only thing these over paid, pre maddona spoilt brats need is a good old fashioned kick up the pants. And the sooner the better.

Yeah let us resort to violence shall we, every time we lose the players get a kicking.

Let look at the team over the road shall we, they win everything, it's rare for them to lose. Their equipment and training is the same as other teams; they have the same heart and lung capacity so what is the difference with them? The difference is Steve Peters, the team's psychiatrist. Before you google Steve Peters Man U I'm talking about the British Cycling Team. It's his 'mind games' that have made the team as successful as it is. Go and employ him Man City.

 

[Dr.Faustus]

Expectation: causing lack of confidence.
Injuries: meaning we cannot field 11-15 core players with regularity to gain a common understanding.

 

[1961_vintage]

Good topic OP.

For me it is all about players handling the pressure and weight of expectation. Some of the players remind me of 16 year old schoolkids going into their 1st GCSE exams. They know their topic, they know they know it, but they search themselves mentally and become anxious worrying whether come the big game moments can they do the biz. This ebbs away at their confidence and distracts them from playing in a natural, free, expressive manner. This in itself then erodes self belief.

It is no surprise that our players who are grounded in self belief based on successful achivement are doing OK - step forward Tevez, and expect same of Viera. On the flip - Ireland and others (including, surprisingly, Barry) are clearly fighting these demons.

Step-up a decent manager and coaching team skilled in understanding and getting the best out of people (think Malcolm, Mourinho etc). Hughes, I think, was viewed as being all stick and no carrot and therefore unlikely to ultimately succeed with such a one dimensional approach. Mancini will live or die on his (what I think is so far relatively unproven) abilities in this area.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The 'celebration' after Ade's goal against Pompy was strange- there wasn't one on the pitch.

I realise scoring against Pompy is perhaps nothing too special but it was Ade's first since the ACN.

MCFC.UK can produce all the cheesy videos they want (Eastenders, Corrie etc. are not real either).

The OP is partly right but it's not something it's a lot of things.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I have thought about this a lot and I've come to this conclusion.

My background,I coach another team sport at a fairly decent level and invest a lot of time into researching what makes teams click and how to keep them up.

I've had snap judgements this year,namely against Gareth Barry.Shadow of his villa days.But the more I think about it the more I see it's bigger then him;

Barry,as discussed.

Stephen Ireland,looks mentally exhausted and completely depressed.

Robinho,completely lost "it"




Jo,Never got going.

The list can go on.

Now these players above have proved they can play at a decent level,so I ask you what is wrong?

I would be purely speculating as to what but something off the field is definitely affecting our players in a detrimental fashion.

It obviously wasnt Mark Hughes as there has been no change and I hesitate to blame Mancini either.

I am not talking about tactics here guys,I am saying these players look defeated walking onto the field!

IMO City need to get some decent external sports psychologists into Carrington fast.

it could be cityitus