Southport | 9 year old girl confirmed as third victim

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It's odd

For me, any attack of this sort is an act of terrorism, regardless of who carries it out.

I guess what they mean it's not carried out by someone liked to a terrorist group, and how would they know that just hours after the incident? You would need to do some real digging to find out if they are linked to terrorism. There's no way you could conclude that in hours. You would need to check any technological devices they have, recover any deleted information, check who they associate with etc.

There's no way that can be determined within hours
CC Kennedy just said detectives are working in liaison with Counter Terrorism (CT) officers-it’s v early in the investigation. Trust the police on this.
 
It’s becoming a worrying trend that has immediately after news breaks of any sort of atrocity they make the “not terror related” statement

Why?
Lets be honest here, as soon as someone says terrorist the first thought for most people is muslim.

The last thing the community needs is any racial tension so best to play down this angle at the moment.
 
I hate to say it,But once i see a news lockdown on facts i know whose involved. This coming on the eve of Labour going to make all the Illegal immigrants in all of those Hotels British citizens..Scarey if true nobody in their right minds voted for this...RIP UK..
Oh giveover

For starters the suspect is 17-the police cannot give his details because 1) they wouldn’t 2) he’s a juvenile and they can’t by law.
 
Sky news anchor is really holding it together. Hes on the verge of tears the poor fella.

What a horrible, horrible situation.
 
It's odd

For me, any attack of this sort is an act of terrorism, regardless of who carries it out.

I guess what they mean it's not carried out by someone liked to a terrorist group, and how would they know that just hours after the incident? You would need to do some real digging to find out if they are linked to terrorism. There's no way you could conclude that in hours. You would need to check any technological devices they have, recover any deleted information, check who they associate with etc.

There's no way that can be determined within hours

Terrorism is defined as violence with a political purpose.

A mentally ill person who believes he has been sent messages by god, or someone who thinks thinks he has a pact with the devil and killing people will increase his chances of winning the lottery are not terrorist attacks.
 
CC Kennedy just said detectives are working in liaison with Counter Terrorism (CT) officers-it’s v early in the investigation. Trust the police on this.

I wouldn't trust the intelligence services to look after a cat half the time

Plenty if attacks have been committed by people who were on a "watch list"
 
Sky News reporting Merseyside Police confirming 2 children dead, 9 injured, 6 of them in a critical condition.
 
Terrorism is defined as violence with a political purpose.

A mentally ill person who believes he has been sent messages by god, or someone who thinks thinks he has a pact with the devil and killing people will increase his chances of winning the lottery are not terrorist attacks.

Fair enough

But I still don't believe they can conclude that in hours. You would need to do digital forensics and whatnot to rule it out.

Probably easier to just say it's not terror related and work backwards. Suits them to do that.
 
Terrorism is defined as violence with a political purpose.

A mentally ill person who believes he has been sent messages by god, or someone who thinks thinks he has a pact with the devil and killing people will increase his chances of winning the lottery are not terrorist attacks.
It’s wider than that but it’s incredibly early in the investigation-I doubt he’s remotely close to being interviewed-it’ll prob be tomorrow. Facts/evidence may emerge that means he is then rearrested under TACT (which then gives them 2 weeks to deal).
 
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