Southport | 9 year old girl confirmed as third victim

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ancoats said:
Matey, it's not crap

Knife crime is out of control because of the laws in place, Get real, enough of the pussy footing around
Change the laws to harder punishment even just for carrying a knife ? Why do people want to carry a knife for ? yeah it looks good Fuck off, Carrying a knife is intended to use it
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The current law is -

The maximum prison sentence for carrying a knife is four years, but if you use the knife in a crime or to injure someone the penalties are a lot worse. Under 'joint enterprise' rules, prosecutors also have the power to bring before the courts people who were present when a crime was committed so that all face the same serious charges

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Agree on longer sentencing but i don't think it will make much of a difference when they're currently risking 4 years inside anyway.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
The current law is -

The maximum prison sentence for carrying a knife is four years, but if you use the knife in a crime or to injure someone the penalties are a lot worse. Under 'joint enterprise' rules, prosecutors also have the power to bring before the courts people who were present when a crime was committed so that all face the same serious charges

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Agree on longer sentencing but i don't think it will make much of a difference when they're currently risking 4 years inside anyway.
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It’s all well and good spouting maximum sentences but the truth is they are hardly if ever given out and people serve half the prescribed punishment. Prisons are a soft touch and a badge of honour for some of these feral cunts.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
The current law is -

The maximum prison sentence for carrying a knife is four years, but if you use the knife in a crime or to injure someone the penalties are a lot worse. Under 'joint enterprise' rules, prosecutors also have the power to bring before the courts people who were present when a crime was committed so that all face the same serious charges

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Agree on longer sentencing but i don't think it will make much of a difference when they're currently risking 4 years inside anyway.
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The thing is Nobody is getting 4 years, Most are given suspended sentences or community order tags

Start Right Now, Show a new campaign and make it very clear you will be going to prison for 4 years. No if buts or maybes, Carrying a knife is intent to Murder
 
ancoats said:
Matey, it's not crap

Knife crime is out of control because of the laws in place, Get real, enough of the pussy footing around
Change the laws to harder punishment even just for carrying a knife ? Why do people want to carry a knife for ? yeah it looks good Fuck off, Carrying a knife is intended to use it
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if you look at the stats It was worse in the mid 90's, A lot was done with inner city scheme's to help reduce gang culture. those schemes were killed in Austerity and no surprise 10-15 years later we're back to where we were with Gang culture and knife crime. one main difference now is reporting. it gets a lot more airtime than it did due to social media and camera's everwhere.


to me the only way to fix it is to treat the problem not the symptom. and even then you will always still have anomalies, this doesn't seem to be your standard gang incident for sure.
 
Holding out hope that no one has lost their life, I saw the echo story but nothing confirmed on BBC.
 
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