I’ve always held the belief that anyone throughout history who commits such horrendous crimes have to be mentally ill , from Hitler and Stalin down to Hindley and Brady . Nobody can be sane and commit such atrocities. As I posted earlier these events will always happen worldwide .I can't find the words.
Fact is, this kid is 17. When I was 17 I knew some right rum twats. I might even have been one myself at times. But not one of us, not the biggest twat of all, would have harmed a little kid. When I was a little kid myself, my mate's big brother was a right dodgy sort. A Teddy boy. He might have given me a slap about the head if he thought I was being cheeky, but he was also protective. I well remember being 'sent home' by him when I was out on the street about 9 pm.
So I just can't get my head around this shit. The twat is either insane, in which case he'll be in 'hospital' probably forever. Or he isn't, in which case, at 17, he won't even get a full sentence. And for those nostalgic for the rope, back in the day, he wouldn't have been hanged either.
I have no answers. And I'm just glad I'm not PM or Home Secretary, for what you'd say to those parents without sounding like a trite bullshitter I can't think.
As for those trying to make political capital of this, in their own way, they are almost as big a twat as the twat himself. It's below contempt to try to stir trouble and maybe get other innocent people hurt.
Anyone who has kids will be more upset about this despicable **** causing such murder madness grief and sorrow because it brings it home that it could be their children or mine.I honestly feel like drinking myself into oblivion..I'm 50 and I wish I was 80 and not long left of this world..no to long ago I felt a bit upset I never had children, fast forward a few years I'm glad I didn't
Fair enough but that is not how I read what you said.
Neither you or I know if he was troublesome, he may well have been a right bastard and problematic as a kid nd at school and that may have been dealt with, or or may not. But to say factually he was not troublesome is plain wrong in my opinion. Anyway lets not fall out over such a trivial matter at such an horrendous time. Peace.
Very well saidAs if it isn’t bad enough that so many children were attacked and two killed, by someone wielding a knife. What we or their families don’t need, is this tragedy to be highjacked for far right political motives. Ghouls feeding on heartbreak, that requires a certain type of utter loathsome ****. I actually found it too distressing to watch more of the reports last night. What the families and those other kids who witnessed it are going through, is beyond belief.
Have a bit of class, if you don’t possess class, pretend, or just keep you hate masquerading as concern to yourself. At the very least, go to a right wing racist group and knock yourselves out.
My heartfelt sympathy to all those poor children and their families.
I would have thought 100% a judge will order release of his name after he’s been found guilty, doubt if his name will be released before that at least officially.Will there be a point where they name him?
Don't know the protocol for this sort of thing, especially when it concerns youth perpetrators
Thompson and Venables were named eventually, although they were referred to as A & B at the time.
If he turns 18 more like... Hopefully somebody will get to this ****When he turns 18 or when a judge allows it due to public interest. Whichever comes sooner tbh. Given the presumably little doubt we have about his innocence and major public interest aspects whichever comes sooner.
This thread helps with context for what "terrorism" actually is, why there is so little info in the public domain etc.
Thanks, but I genuinely think there are numerous intelligent and thoughtful people on here who have offered very wise and insightful posts-Fuck me. Somebody who knows what they are talking about. A rarity on here (apart from @bert38 , of course .....).
Oh I know fuck all, and I'm not that person. I just know how to vet a source and have a tiny bit of media and journalism training under my belt so follow the right people on socials.Fuck me. Somebody who knows what they are talking about. A rarity on here (apart from @bert38 , of course .....).
If you stop them from going, then terrorism has won.We've got Derrick Bird as well with 12? Shot dead including himself - it never made me feel scared in my home country. My mum is taking my kids (13 and 7) to London today to see some shows - I've never felt inclined to change plans due to any issues previously but I'm seriously considering if them going is the right idea after this week, if that's not terror related I don't know what is.
heres where I am...
I am not devastated, I am not shocked or surprised.
I will continue to walk the inner city MCR streets without fear or trepidation.
I will not be offering prayers, or hugging my children a little tighter tonight. Neither will I be fking about at an airport, bricking the local Mosque or attending candlelight vigils.
I accepted some time ago, that of any race creed or colour, some percentage of them are total cunts. Not evil, just cunts.
This is how it has always been, and how it always will be.
If one of my own was taken in this fashion, I would actively seek retribution.
Am I alone?..
you need to reset your cuntometer...slightly.Nothing political and nothing to do with Starmer personally saying it but when he said I offer my condolences to the families etc.. I sort of cringed
He has to say and and will have wanted to probably be face to face with their parents himself and tell them just how sorry he and the whole nation are
It’s just hearing the same thing so so often
I disagree though, someone who nicks your parking space or speeds through a school zone at 50 is a ****
This sick bastard was evil
It is winning, sadly.If you stop them from going, then terrorism has won.
I’ve always held the belief that anyone throughout history who commits such horrendous crimes have to be mentally ill , from Hitler and Stalin down to Hindley and Brady . Nobody can be sane and commit such atrocities. As I posted earlier these events will always happen worldwide .
you need to reset your cuntometer...slightly.
I don't think it is. There will be hundreds if not thousands of kids clubs open today, running as usual. A lot of them in Southport itself. When 9/11 happened we got back on the planes, when 7/7 happened we got back on the tubes and buses, after the Arena attack we carried on going to concerts. Nazis relentlessly bombed our towns and cities from 1,000ft up for years on end but people still went to school, to the shops, to see their friends. Hate might land a few blows but it never wins.It is winning, sadly.