Spurs (A) | Post-Match Thread

Won 3 of last 4 league titles with soft arses. Would probably win 6 out of 4 league titles if we had hard arses.

We‘d may well have won the CL and an extra FA Cup. Plus we’d have won the leagues we did by a lot more points I reckon.

It’s not just the haul of trophies though, it’s attitude on the pitch. We often seem to look like heads go down too much when we concede, and too meekly accepting blatantly cheating refereeing decisions.
 
Last season started badly until Pep adjusted defensively then suddenly our unbeaten run kicked in.
When we had virtually won the PL we then took a few matches before we actually got those few points. Whether we relaxed or not I don't know but those last few matches were not the way how we won the PL.

I think this season has players who feel the attitude of the end of last season will be enough.

Maybe fitness or even dare I say an inability to recreate our start of the winning streak. However if certain players unfit why play them?
The only part of last season that we were consistently good in was the middle bit. We had a tight defence then and that included defending from the front. When we go gung-ho, we leave ourselves vulnerable to the counter attack as we did yesterday and our players were slow to get back. Rags, Leeds, Chelsea x 3 all took advantage of this at the end of last season and we also shipped 3 goals to Newcastle and Brighton! We need to tighten up our defending and do what we did well last season. Our quality should always come out on top in a tight game but if we go behind we just don’t seem to have the answers.
 
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If that was our regular team we would have won that game. Walker Stones Zinc KDB from the start. Sterling is a waste of time too. Lack of fitness was obvious too. It’s a marathon not a sprint and it all changes once CL kicks in.
 
We‘d may well have won the CL and an extra FA Cup. Plus we’d have won the leagues we did by a lot more points I reckon.

It’s not just the haul of trophies though, it’s attitude on the pitch. We often seem to look like heads go down too much when we concede, and too meekly accepting blatantly cheating refereeing decisions.
If we had better players and a better manager, we would have won everything in the last 4 seasons, including winning the league with more than a 100 points by your reckoning. Fair enough mate. I don't think I've anything more to add to this discussion.
 
It's not though is it? The system works otherwise we wouldn't have won numerous trophies and broken countless records using it. Like all systems though it's not infallibile, none is. If one was then a team would win every game and all the trophies they competed for.

Players have off days, make mistakes, your opponent just plays a fantastic game and you lose. It happens. Yesterday in spite of having some key players missing and struggling with a lack of a proper pre season we still should have been at least ,3-0 up in the first 20 minutes. Pep can't put those chances away, nor can he defend better as Ake should have for their goal. Sure it was a counter attack that undid us, but we could play a more defensive system and still lose. I'll agree against certain teams he should be a little more pragmatic at times but he seems to be doing that now.
Don't disagree with much of what you've said but I'd replace Pep not being infallible rather than the system.

The most frustrating thing for me is you can almost predict by the rhythm of play how the game is going to end. Once they overcame our early onslaught we played at walking pace for the rest of the game.
 
What excuses did Mendy, Ake and Cancelo have, certainly wasn't tiredness.

Horrible from so many but the glaring issue remains and a top striker would have made little difference today.

The defensive midfield is too slow when the ball breaks down.

Fern still sees the danger but his legs can't get him there.

Gundo, Rodri, nobody solves this issue right now, certainly when we want to front load the top half of the pitch.

Thought Grealish was a real positive.
Exactly how I saw it
 

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