Spurs (H) | PL | Post Match Thread

Very frustrating match. I agree with a lot of the criticism here, particularly 2nd half we were relatively poor, and gave the ball away far too much, but still by any standards we were far the better team overall. Hit the woodwork twice, Haaland missed an unbelievable sitter, our press forced them into multiple errors trying to pass out of defence etc.

We could easily have played the same game and won 5-1, and everyone would be saying we're unstoppable.

Football's like that sometimes.

We're second in the league and top of our CL group. It's not perfect, but it's not at all bad.

We are third.

Doomed, I tells ya! Doomed!!
 
Shipping three goals at home and giving away leads in the last 10 minutes for what, four games on the spin just isn't good enough at all.

It's unacceptable from this group of elite players and coaches, plain and simple.
Picking up avoidable bookings through stupidity meaning players will miss important tough away games is also poor imo.
 
Whilst, like most, I thought the ref's decision was shocking, we shouldn't have needed to rely on that anyway. Hit the post 3 times and Erling missed a sitter. Should have been out of sight by half time but we weren't partly due to dumb luck and partly to poor finishing. Sometimes it happens - we move on.
 
True dat.

However, if Grealish continued the attack and if he had scored, that would have forced VAR to intervene/review the goal and award it, overcoming the ref's decision.
And sent off for not playing to the whistle, he had already been booked.
 
We just lack midfield control. Rodri is doing a lot more than he should be doing , Gundo last season helped control the midfield. We miss a Gundo type player probably why Pep wants Paqueta his work rate and ability would transform our midfield. Would help Rodri massively. Midfield is so important to how we play , our midfield last season was the best in Europe. But we’ve lost two of the most crucial parts to that midfield in Gundo who has left and Kev to injury.
 
We just lack midfield control. Rodri is doing a lot more than he should be doing , Gundo last season helped control the midfield. We miss a Gundo type player probably why Pep wants Paqueta his work rate and ability would transform our midfield. Would help Rodri massively. Midfield is so important to how we play , our midfield last season was the best in Europe. But we’ve lost two of the most crucial parts to that midfield in Gundo who has left and Kev to injury.

This is a huge factor. Rodri is as good as doing it on his own at the moment and in the last two games has looked a shadow of himself. I think he's starting to get burnout from last season and it's showing .
 
I think we try to play abit to clever sometimes, trying a pass that isn't really on. Like we are trying to force the game. Once that pass doesn't come of teams now seem to be able get through our middle quickly, because we are out of shape.

We need to stop giving the ball away and I think we need someone to help Rodri. The midfield is to light.
As much as love seeing more attacking players perhaps one needs dropping for anothe more defensive midfielder.

A midfield without KDB, Gundogan and Stones big senior players missing. The player brought in normal take a season to get up to speed. Sadly we just have a passenger in Phillips.

Yesterday I think every spurs chances or goal was from City miss pass. Plus it didnt helo that when spurs hit the woodwork the ball went in, when ours went to safety !
 
F365 to our rescue :) :) (as many times when media is shitting all over us). It still doesn't make feel better after three draw.

Manchester City: The crisis
Manchester City drawing three straight games is getting some people very giddy about a possible title race, as if absolutely nothing has been learned.

City have not lost any of those games but Oliver Brown in the Telegraph is enjoying the notion that they might:


The serenity of champions-in-waiting has given way to a strange, skittish energy, with the finest team in Europe realising that they confront their toughest title fight in years.
That’s absolute bollocks. They’re closer to Arsenal than they were at the same stage last season, two years ago they were a point behind Chelsea at this juncture and it’s literally only three years since they were eighth after 14 games.

The last time they were top of the Premier League table after 14 games was 2018. They have won four titles in the intervening five years.


This is not simply an aesthetic judgment. The crumbling of defensive poise is backed up by the numbers: since a regulation win over Young Boys last month, they have conceded at a rate of 2.5 goals per game. For the first 18 games this campaign, it was 0.8.
Because comparing 18 games to four games is a rock-solid statistical model.

While Guardiola was adamant his side had barely given Tottenham a look-in, this argument was of dubious statistical merit. Over the past month, City have conceded an average of 10 chances per game, a far cry from the 6.2 they managed before this winter wobble set in.
And 17 of those chances came v Chelsea.

And as for Tottenham, the xG for that game was 2.6 to 0.5 in Manchester City’s favour; they did ‘barely give Tottenham a look-in’. If you’re going to talk about ‘statistical merit’, maybe look at some statistics, fella.


But when the system falters, City can look oddly destabilised. At 21, Doku is already a captivating talent. You only had to admire his shimmying first-half movement, feigning to go left before cutting right and cannoning a shot off the crossbar, to wonder at how he could yet flourish under Guardiola. But there is still a callowness to him, too, reflected in the one successful dribble he completed all game. With that rate of return, there will be limits to how much freedom Guardiola affords his Belgian prodigy.
And last week v Liverpool, he dribbled past 12 players. His dribbling ‘rate of return’ is the highest in the Premier League by some margin. He had one quite poor game that Brown happened to watch.

Brown then writes about the lack of control being exhibited by Manchester City this season, whose crisis takes them all the way down to third after a run of games against Big Six sides that they will not face again until mid-February, and fails to mention one quite significant fact: They are missing literally the best midfielder in the Premier League.

It seems relevant.
 

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