Spurs thread 2020/21

[jimharri]

Nice selective memory you have there.

Two footed tackles on Kev and Dinho come to mind as well as this.View attachment 6336

I remember that game at our place, when both Kane and Alli should have walked.

 

[xgorton]

I remember that game at our place, when both Kane and Alli should have walked.

Oliver the ref ?

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Oliver the ref ?

Pawson wasn't it?

 

[xgorton]

Pawson wasn't it?

Both coonts.

 

[LongsightM13]

No argument, he's made some poor challenges over the years (and been on the end of quite a few too).

But that doesn't mean that he went into those challenges with the express purpose of injuring the other player. That is the accusation levelled against him.

Ah, there it is, the old “Paul Scholes is a converted forward so he doesn’t know how to tackle” defence, despite a decade of horrendous, potentially career ending challenges. Usually accompanied by a chuckling Ferguson and the terrified simpering media whores giggling along like teenage girls meeting their favourite pop star on Going Live

 

[JimB]

Ah, there it is, the old “Paul Scholes is a converted forward so he doesn’t know how to tackle” defence, despite a decade of horrendous, potentially career ending challenges. Usually accompanied by a chuckling Ferguson and the terrified simpering media whores giggling along like teenage girls meeting their favourite pop star on Going Live

Err.......what?

I mean, nice essay and all, mate, but that's not even remotely what I said! I didn't excuse bad tackling at all.

My point was merely that it is absurd for anyone to claim that Kane deliberately and routinely sets out to cause serious injury to random opponents.

 

[give it to gordon]

I fully agree that it could well end up hurting someone. So I wouldn't argue if a ref did show him a yellow or even a red.

But, no, Kane isn't deliberately trying to hurt anyone. He is deliberately trying to win free kicks.

Really he is deliberately backing into a player who is in the air, to knock that player out of control, making that player land awkwardly.
Kane knows what he is doing and he knows the player could get hurt even seriously hurt. I dont believe that a player at his age and standard doesnt know he could hurt the player.
A desso pitch is very hard, and not to be in control of your landing is dangerous, kane is knocking them out of control. I can see kane breaking someone's collar bone, or worse, there is no 'give' in a desso pitch.

Even I that has only played grassroots/Sunday league knows if the forward is doing that to me , he might hurt me and get a slap in the car park !

 

[JimB]

Really he is deliberately backing into a player who is in the air, to knock that player out of control, making that player land awkwardly.
Kane knows what he is doing and he knows the player could get hurt even seriously hurt. I dont believe that a player at his age and standard doesnt know he could hurt the player.
A desso pitch is very hard, and not to be in control of your landing is dangerous, kane is knocking them out of control. I can see kane breaking someone's collar bone, or worse, there is no 'give' in a desso pitch.

Even I that has only played grassroots/Sunday league knows if the forward is doing that to me , he might hurt me and get a slap in the car park !

Desso pitch has nothing to do with it, mate. If you fall face first from a height, any pitch is going to be hard. Desso doesn't make a pitch materially harder. It merely makes the grass more stable and less likely to tear into big divots.

There is a social media witch hunt by bitter, envious people who are always out to belittle Kane or taint him him with any number of atrocities (and who always move the goalposts when any line of attack is proved to be ridiculous). These people have now settled on their latest campaign, screeching and wailing that Kane deliberately sets out to cause serious injury to random other players. It's absurd, of course. What would Kane's motivation be to do such a thing? The haters don't care about such awkward questions. The agenda is all that matters to them.

To be clear, I'm not including you in their number. But I do strongly disagree that Kane backs into an airborne player specifically to "knock that player out of control, making him land awkwardly". What actually happens is that Kane moves into position before the other player jumps and his intention is to get himself between that player and the ball so that he can either win the ball or win a free kick.

I do agree that he sometimes gets it wrong and that, on those occasions, he should be punished. But the reverse is true too. Sometimes the player taking a running jump recklessly endangers Kane as he legitimately takes up a position to win or protect the ball.

 

[give it to gordon]

Desso pitch has nothing to do with it, mate. If you fall face first from a height, any pitch is going to be hard. Desso doesn't make a pitch materially harder. It merely makes the grass more stable and less likely to tear into big divots.

There is a social media witch hunt by bitter, envious people who are always out to belittle Kane or taint him him with any number of atrocities (and who always move the goalposts when any line of attack is proved to be ridiculous). These people have now settled on their latest campaign, screeching and wailing that Kane deliberately sets out to cause serious injury to random other players. It's absurd, of course. What would Kane's motivation be to do such a thing? The haters don't care about such awkward questions. The agenda is all that matters to them.

To be clear, I'm not including you in their number. But I do strongly disagree that Kane backs into an airborne player specifically to "knock that player out of control, making him land awkwardly". What actually happens is that Kane moves into position before the other player jumps and his intention is to get himself between that player and the ball so that he can either win the ball or win a free kick.

I do agree that he sometimes gets it wrong and that, on those occasions, he should be punished. But the reverse is true too. Sometimes the player taking a running jump recklessly endangers Kane as he legitimately takes up a position to win or protect the ball.

Ok you obviously see what he does differently to me. And desso pitches are alot harder and firmer than traditional soil pitches, due to there construction of being 100%sand and nylon. Soil pitches have a little give in the desso pitches are like playing on a frozen soil pitch. ( I use to work in sports turf maintenance, and lots of older players prefer the older style soil pitches as its kinder on their knees ! )
I agree falling from height is going to hurt on any pitch.

 

[Semper aggressus]

How come Spurs seem willing to send Alli out on loan to PSG? I remember when he was thought of as a potential England superstar and a player we would do well to sign.

Has he turned shit, or just doesn't get on with Mourinho? Seems a far cry from the goalscoring midfielder of two or three seasons ago.