Stadium Expansion (Confirmed)

1961_vintage said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Got the letter today telling me my ST will be going up from £700 to £1150 in 15/16........

Forgive me for not getting excited about that one!

Bloody hell! Where's that sitting Mil?

Level 2 padded seats but in the corner.

In 2009/10......i was paying £550 in total for me and my 15 year old lad in family stand.

When he turned 16 we had to move and thought lets try and stay fairly close to where we were....we moved to the corner and I was paying about £800 for both.

As he has got older the price has gone up. He is now 19 and the joint cost this season is £1250.

In 2015/16 He will be 21 and paying full price. We could be looking at £2300 minimum.

A 300% plus increase in 6 years......

I accept that he isn't 16 anymore and therefore price is going to go up but this is just a completed pisstake.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Got the letter today telling me my ST will be going up from £700 to £1150 in 15/16........

Forgive me for not getting excited about that one!

Bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, I bet you and many like you are raging.

Social cleansing, that's what its called. I seem to remember some Conservative in London many years ago deliberately selling off Council Houses in an attempt to alter the social demographic of an area to prevent a Socialist Council being elected.

This is the sporting version. In short, the club are not interested in our types anymore.
There are over 13k seats in the new tiers priced at £299 to £449 and £450 to £599

In truth City are adopting a two-prong approach of expanding the Corporate Seats and expanding seating for the traditional fan. As long as there's cheap seating available for the mass of fans, I don't see a big problem.

Whether they can find a market for the Corporate and Wealthy supporter in Manchester we'll have to see.
 
I too have had the 2015/16 your ticket will be going up to 'from' £1150.

But i do get access to an exclusive bar under the new seating at either end. Where what? Where half of the people i sit with now with even less expendable income will be no where to be found since theyll either be upstairs in the gods or watching it on Al Jezeera courtesy of Shady?

Id expect naked bar girls giving my balls a clean for fifteen minutes every other Saturday for that. £20 a game and market prices of such services and thats feasible.

Im all for the expansion, i expect a price increase season to season, within reason, but come on lets contextualise this.

If every single person in the CB2 and E2 stump up the extra £400 that will create lets say since im not sure of fan numbers an extra 10k fans x 400 per season. = £4 million. Lets just double it and say im massively out and its actually 20k, which it isnt, then its £8 million.

£8 Million pays one top players salary these days, two very good. Thats the world we live in. Compare this to the money on offer from the TV deals and the squeeze such an increase will put on the fans.

If it was an extra £200 i could probably stomach, and afford,it. That would still give the club an extra £2 - £4 million a year but an extra £400 minimum?

Not a chance.

I love where i sit because of the view, the closeness to the pitch, the people i sit with, the atmosphere. Anyone in a similar mindset is clearly either going to jump ship or move to the new seats at the first opportunity therefore limiting the seats available in the expansion. Even with a free reign of choice your still looking at a much reduced experience sitting behind a goal three tiers up.

People will say im moaning and we need to progress, well i agree but there is progress and there is pricing fans out and moving from £750 - £1150 represents over a 150% increase in cost.

Show me the value in that. And comparison to other clubs prices etc wont stick, this is not another club.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
Bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, I bet you and many like you are raging.

Social cleansing, that's what its called. I seem to remember some Conservative in London many years ago deliberately selling off Council Houses in an attempt to alter the social demographic of an area to prevent a Socialist Council being elected.

This is the sporting version. In short, the club are not interested in our types anymore.
It's called gerrymandering. I don't think Sheikh Mansour is considering mass executions of any folk wearing flat caps just yet.

Yep, knew it was Gerrymandering, however I didn't want to baffle people.

I remember when Sky first came to the table and they for many seasons took football, a very addictive drug to the masses, and once they had completely got the nation addicted they simply wound up the price and reaped the rewards of millions of football addicts.

In a sad way, perhaps Mr Mansour and his advisors, on a smaller scale initially, have looked to find a similarly addictive substance (our club) and after a successful marketing campaign around the globe, now believes he can push prices were he wants as his new customers are willing to pay higher prices!

Perhaps not the most apt comparison, but nonetheless, in lay terms it's what's happened.

Either find the money to pay or suffer some severe and painful withdrawal.
I think the term "social cleansing" was an unfortunate one, that's all.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's called gerrymandering. I don't think Sheikh Mansour is considering mass executions of any folk wearing flat caps just yet.

Yep, knew it was Gerrymandering, however I didn't want to baffle people.

I remember when Sky first came to the table and they for many seasons took football, a very addictive drug to the masses, and once they had completely got the nation addicted they simply wound up the price and reaped the rewards of millions of football addicts.

In a sad way, perhaps Mr Mansour and his advisors, on a smaller scale initially, have looked to find a similarly addictive substance (our club) and after a successful marketing campaign around the globe, now believes he can push prices were he wants as his new customers are willing to pay higher prices!

Perhaps not the most apt comparison, but nonetheless, in lay terms it's what's happened.

Either find the money to pay or suffer some severe and painful withdrawal.
I think the term "social cleansing" was an unfortunate one, that's all.

I agree it is unfortunate for those that are being washed out of their seats however it's true. My real surprise is though, is that they have already put the padded seats in for the scabby arses of the local poor to fart on! Clearly this must have been an oversight of some overly eager corporate hospitality manager.

I mean afterall, which posh type would want to buy that type of second had sofa to sit on!
 
Marvin said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Got the letter today telling me my ST will be going up from £700 to £1150 in 15/16........

Forgive me for not getting excited about that one!

Bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, I bet you and many like you are raging.

Social cleansing, that's what its called. I seem to remember some Conservative in London many years ago deliberately selling off Council Houses in an attempt to alter the social demographic of an area to prevent a Socialist Council being elected.

This is the sporting version. In short, the club are not interested in our types anymore.
There are over 13k seats in the new tiers priced at £299 to £449 and £450 to £599

In truth City are adopting a two-prong approach of expanding the Corporate Seats and expanding seating for the traditional fan. As long as there's cheap seating available for the mass of fans, I don't see a big problem.

Whether they can find a market for the Corporate and Wealthy supporter in Manchester we'll have to see.

Who gets first choice of these seats? I haven't been given an option to register for seats in this new stand. Maybe that will come but so far nothing.

As for finding takers for the seats it depends on success.... We therefore have to be successful or the newcomers may well move on to the next success and the loyal ones who have been moved/priced out etc may just think "do you know what.... fuck it I've got used to not going"

I was surrounded by dickheads taking pictures with their half/half scarves against Bayern. Every regular near me didn't go because they simply couldn't afford it. I will be amazed if more than 20% of ST in those areas stay so that's a lot of corporate seats to fill.
 
dancingsilverback said:
I too have had the 2015/16 your ticket will be going up to 'from' £1150.

But i do get access to an exclusive bar under the new seating at either end. Where what? Where half of the people i sit with now with even less expendable income will be no where to be found since theyll either be upstairs in the gods or watching it on Al Jezeera courtesy of Shady?

Id expect naked bar girls giving my balls a clean for fifteen minutes every other Saturday for that. £20 a game and market prices of such services and thats feasible.

Im all for the expansion, i expect a price increase season to season, within reason, but come on lets contextualise this.

If every single person in the CB2 and E2 stump up the extra £400 that will create lets say since im not sure of fan numbers an extra 10k fans x 400 per season. = £4 million. Lets just double it and say im massively out and its actually 20k, which it isnt, then its £8 million.

£8 Million pays one top players salary these days, two very good. Thats the world we live in. Compare this to the money on offer from the TV deals and the squeeze such an increase will put on the fans.

If it was an extra £200 i could probably stomach, and afford,it. That would still give the club an extra £2 - £4 million a year but an extra £400 minimum?

Not a chance.

I love where i sit because of the view, the closeness to the pitch, the people i sit with, the atmosphere. Anyone in a similar mindset is clearly either going to jump ship or move to the new seats at the first opportunity therefore limiting the seats available in the expansion. Even with a free reign of choice your still looking at a much reduced experience sitting behind a goal three tiers up.

People will say im moaning and we need to progress, well i agree but there is progress and there is pricing fans out and moving from £750 - £1150 represents over a 150% increase in cost.

Show me the value in that. And comparison to other clubs prices etc wont stick, this is not another club.
I know from your pov it's not good news, but with a bigger expanded ground there should be good alternatives. I reckon some fans who sit in good seats at the front of Tier 3, or Level 1 (East and West) may move elsewhere to take advantage of lower prices
 
dancingsilverback said:
I too have had the 2015/16 your ticket will be going up to 'from' £1150.

But i do get access to an exclusive bar under the new seating at either end. Where what? Where half of the people i sit with now with even less expendable income will be no where to be found since theyll either be upstairs in the gods or watching it on Al Jezeera courtesy of Shady?

Id expect naked bar girls giving my balls a clean for fifteen minutes every other Saturday for that. £20 a game and market prices of such services and thats feasible.

Im all for the expansion, i expect a price increase season to season, within reason, but come on lets contextualise this.

If every single person in the CB2 and E2 stump up the extra £400 that will create lets say since im not sure of fan numbers an extra 10k fans x 400 per season. = £4 million. Lets just double it and say im massively out and its actually 20k, which it isnt, then its £8 million.

£8 Million pays one top players salary these days, two very good. Thats the world we live in. Compare this to the money on offer from the TV deals and the squeeze such an increase will put on the fans.

If it was an extra £200 i could probably stomach, and afford,it. That would still give the club an extra £2 - £4 million a year but an extra £400 minimum?

Not a chance.

I love where i sit because of the view, the closeness to the pitch, the people i sit with, the atmosphere. Anyone in a similar mindset is clearly either going to jump ship or move to the new seats at the first opportunity therefore limiting the seats available in the expansion. Even with a free reign of choice your still looking at a much reduced experience sitting behind a goal three tiers up.

People will say im moaning and we need to progress, well i agree but there is progress and there is pricing fans out and moving from £750 - £1150 represents over a 150% increase in cost.

Show me the value in that. And comparison to other clubs prices etc wont stick, this is not another club.

£1200? I'd be putting my name down for a move wow Arsenal prices and for what a pretty bar and comfy seat? Fuck that m8.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
Yep, knew it was Gerrymandering, however I didn't want to baffle people.

I remember when Sky first came to the table and they for many seasons took football, a very addictive drug to the masses, and once they had completely got the nation addicted they simply wound up the price and reaped the rewards of millions of football addicts.

In a sad way, perhaps Mr Mansour and his advisors, on a smaller scale initially, have looked to find a similarly addictive substance (our club) and after a successful marketing campaign around the globe, now believes he can push prices were he wants as his new customers are willing to pay higher prices!

Perhaps not the most apt comparison, but nonetheless, in lay terms it's what's happened.

Either find the money to pay or suffer some severe and painful withdrawal.
I think the term "social cleansing" was an unfortunate one, that's all.

I agree it is unfortunate for those that are being washed out of their seats however it's true. My real surprise is though, is that they have already put the padded seats in for the scabby arses of the local poor to fart on! Clearly this must have been an oversight of some overly eager corporate hospitality manager.

I mean afterall, which posh type would want to buy that type of second had sofa to sit on!
Hopefully they'll....errr.....cleanse the seats before the social cleanse happens.
 

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