Stadium Expansion email

[Skashion]

I didnt hear much sympathy from people from other parts of the stadium when the north stand was reallocated the family stand and people had to relocate

At the time I was told the club needed to do what it needed to do and I just had to put up with it and I would still be able to have a seat so yeah the stadium is full of "Im alright Jack" types but listen to those same people moan when changes affect them

Unless you can prove they were the same people, your point is null and void.

 

[johnbmcr]

Ok, why don't we just put the price of season tickets up by £50 per person(£1.8m extra on 36k season tickets). Do away with the £299 season ticket. Get full paying customers in there seats.(500 at £299 increased to £550 means another £125,500)
Or just make every season ticket £780 like mine and everyone pays the same for the same football match!!!

-- Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:23 am --

Scrap the family stand, make parents pay full price for the kid. It sits in a seat we can sell at a higher rate also.

sort of agree with the sentient but a more practical approach in my view as I hate subsidising other people's sproglets would be to charge kids a higher proportion as they get older

so if the idea is you encourage kids to the ground so they will stay as life long fans then@ 5 yrs 10% of cost 8 yrs 20% 10 years 30% increasing up to 18 so that parents and yoof can plan in advance knowing they will have to make choices about what they spend their money on

Thats way when a young person gets to 18 they know they will have to pay full price but would have had 15 years notice much fairer way to share the costs and deals with the for me, the annoying issue of subsidies to both rich and poor parents, who benefit already by getting tax breaks and family allowance type payments.


+ if as I am sure you do and I do have to earn our money they might be less cavalier about wasting a seat valued at £700 by not turning up if there was a financial loss as result of non attendance

 

[SWP's back]

There seems to be a lot of "I'm all right Jack's so fuck you and stop moaning" posts on this thread .......

No, there is a lot of moaning and saying people will be priced out when that is not the case. They may just have to move.

-- Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:36 am --

Again - just out of interest Marvin - where do you sit ?

So City shouldn't expand and move forward as it affects you.

Seems you are happy to be "I'm alright Jack" when it suits (at present for example)

Just out if interest - where do you sit SWP ?

I'll be moving into the new corporate so I can stick it through the company books in all probability.

:)

But as I say, you are against this as it affects your lovely view. You are the very definition of a NIMBY.

 

[chesterguy]

I didnt hear much sympathy from people from other parts of the stadium when the north stand was reallocated the family stand and people had to relocate

At the time I was told the club needed to do what it needed to do and I just had to put up with it and I would still be able to have a seat so yeah the stadium is full of "Im alright Jack" types but listen to those same people moan when changes affect them

Unless you can prove they were the same people, your point is null and void.

No its not I didnt mention any specific people but there were many who not affected by change tell those that are to deal with it that is just a fact of life

 

[Its in The Blood]

Ok, why don't we just put the price of season tickets up by £50 per person(£1.8m extra on 36k season tickets). Do away with the £299 season ticket. Get full paying customers in there seats.(500 at £299 increased to £550 means another £125,500)
Or just make every season ticket £780 like mine and everyone pays the same for the same football match!!!

-- Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:23 am --

Scrap the family stand, make parents pay full price for the kid. It sits in a seat we can sell at a higher rate also.

sort of agree with the sentient but a more practical approach in my view as I hate subsidising other people's sproglets would be to charge kids a higher proportion as they get older

so if the idea is you encourage kids to the ground so they will stay as life long fans then@ 5 yrs 10% of cost 8 yrs 20% 10 years 30% increasing up to 18 so that parents and yoof can plan in advance knowing they will have to make choices about what they spend their money on

Thats way when a young person gets to 18 they know they will have to pay full price but would have had 15 years notice much fairer way to share the costs and deals with the for me, the annoying issue of subsidies to both rich and poor parents, who benefit already by getting tax breaks and family allowance type payments.


+ if as I am sure you do and I do have to earn our money they might be less cavalier about wasting a seat valued at £700 by not turning up if there was a financial loss as result of non attendance

Think we should bring in fines for no shows also.

To the north stand mover at Maine Road. I have been moved many times by development at that ground. I actually ended up sitting in all four stands.

 

[Kakhaber Tskhadadze K.O.T.A.]

But as I say, you are against this as it affects your lovely view. You are the very definition of a NIMBY.

At what point did I say I was against it SWP ?

and name calling is not very becoming for a corporate prawn sandwich eater is it ?

 

[cyberblue]

People are just never happy whatever the improvements .people moaned when the Platt lane & Kippax were modernised but then learnt to love there new surroundings & the people they were sat next to .people moaned & still do about moving to Eastlands .Why dont you look at the bigger picture instead of moaning about moveing seats (it is not the end of the world) You never no you might like your new seat better

 

[SWP's back]

But as I say, you are against this as it affects your lovely view. You are the very definition of a NIMBY.

At what point did I say I was against it SWP ?

and name calling is not very becoming for a corporate prawn sandwich eater is it ?

I was only pulling your leg about moving there.

A "not in my back yard-er" is not really name calling though is it.

If City want to make more from corporate (which is where we fall down hugely against the likes of Pool, Arse, Chelsea and United) then the unfortunate thing is that some people will have to move. At least City are doing that in conjunction with an expansion so no one is effectively priced out of watching City live.

If they weren't expanding and expecting fans to stump up more for their current view then I would be against it.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Ok, why don't we just put the price of season tickets up by £50 per person(£1.8m extra on 36k season tickets). Do away with the £299 season ticket. Get full paying customers in there seats.(500 at £299 increased to £550 means another £125,500)
Or just make every season ticket £780 like mine and everyone pays the same for the same football match!!!

-- Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:23 am --

Scrap the family stand, make parents pay full price for the kid. It sits in a seat we can sell at a higher rate also.

sort of agree with the sentient but a more practical approach in my view as I hate subsidising other people's sproglets would be to charge kids a higher proportion as they get older

so if the idea is you encourage kids to the ground so they will stay as life long fans then@ 5 yrs 10% of cost 8 yrs 20% 10 years 30% increasing up to 18 so that parents and yoof can plan in advance knowing they will have to make choices about what they spend their money on

Thats way when a young person gets to 18 they know they will have to pay full price but would have had 15 years notice much fairer way to share the costs and deals with the for me, the annoying issue of subsidies to both rich and poor parents, who benefit already by getting tax breaks and family allowance type payments.


+ if as I am sure you do and I do have to earn our money they might be less cavalier about wasting a seat valued at £700 by not turning up if there was a financial loss as result of non attendance

Think we should bring in fines for no shows also.

To the north stand mover at Maine Road. I have been moved many times by development at that ground. I actually ended up sitting in all four stands.

have you got a really big arse?

 

[Its in The Blood]

Well the new plan looks interesting. What about those in 3 tier that might have to move for way fans to go up there?? One of questions in survey was this.

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Posted on TheBusinessDesk.com this morning: -


How the Etihad Stadium will look- minus the roof - when it is expanded to 60,000


MANCHESTER City FC today began a public consultation process on its plans to increase capacity at the Etihad Stadium from 48,000 to more than 60,000.

The project, which entails the expansion of first the South Stand and then the North, will see capacity rise first to 54,000 and then to 60,000 as a third tier of seating is added. If all goes to plan, phase one will be completed by the summer of 2015.

Maintaining its commitment to support local suppliers and employ local people, the club said the expansion will create 160 construction and 110 match day jobs in each phase.
The project, costing "tens of millions" according to head of infrastructure Pete Bradshaw will take investment in infrastructure around the stadium to an estimated £200m since the 2008 takeover by Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour.

After the results of the consultation with fans and local residents, the club will submit a planning application to Manchester City Council in December.

This will include the option for the North Stand expansion too. Should approval be granted construction work will being in April 2014, Mr Bradshaw said at a briefing.

The club has opened an exhibition area for fans and residents to visit located behind the stadium's North stand.


This proposed expansion of the stadium will allow the club to introduce a new season ticket for £299, and to double its hospitality offer too, from 2,500 corporate seats to 5,000.

Mr Pete Bradshaw, Head of Infrastructure & Corporate Responsibility; said: “Manchester City Football Club strives to provide its supporters and visiting fans with one of the best possible matchday experiences in the Premier League and European football.

"Games are selling out frequently prior to going on open sale and there is rising demand from supporters for more season tickets, matchday tickets and premium seating.

"This is why we are considering these expansion proposals. We will be in touch with every fan who would be potentially affected by the changes in phase 1, and we encourage fans, residents and anyone who has a point of view, to visit the exhibition in person or online and tell us what they think.”

He said the construction work would not impact fans in the two stands affected.

 

[PistonBlue]

Looks like I'll be moving then, partly as I may be priced out, partly because I don't particularly need my matchday experience enhancing by sitting in a private bar filled with corporates having to listen to some shite excuse for live entertainment while paying over the odds for a Jamie Oliver 'inspired' (wtf does that mean anyway?) plate of shite.

Give me a £299 season ticket behind the net, ta.

I know the club need to find extra income from whatever avenue, but the corporate thing really isn't for me. As a one off perhaps, but not every game. The match for me is only about the football, it's never been about the 'matchday experience'. I just hope we don't end up like Arsenal.

 

[blueyorkie]

Going to cost us £2k to sit in CB 2nd tier in a few seasons I reckon QR.

Well I won't be there, so they will win. Once-a-season suits will get the best view in the house.

Had a season ticket for 25 years - through the shit and the dross. Will probably jack it in when it does happen - kids (8 year season card & 4 year season card) will be disappointed but its not just about watching the match - it's a social thing as well, we have a great crowd around us that have great banter which is a big part of my "match day experience" which will be lost if we are forced to move. Shame really .

Arrange to all move together

 

[TueartsOHK]

How will this affect the out of town City fans who go to say 10 games a season? Will it mean more seats going over to Corporate and less available to say blue membership card holders? It pisses me off when I can't buy tickets for games when we see so many empty seats - I can see this getting worse following the ground extension.

 

[SWP's back]

How will this affect the out of town City fans who go to say 10 games a season? Will it mean more seats going over to Corporate and less available to say blue membership card holders? It pisses me off when I can't buy tickets for games when we see so many empty seats - I can see this getting worse following the ground extension.

More seats = less availability?

How does that work?

 

[HelloCity]

How will this affect the out of town City fans who go to say 10 games a season? Will it mean more seats going over to Corporate and less available to say blue membership card holders? It pisses me off when I can't buy tickets for games when we see so many empty seats - I can see this getting worse following the ground extension.

How could 6,500 extra seats either end possibly mean it would get worse for getting tickets?

 

[Kakhaber Tskhadadze K.O.T.A.]

Well I won't be there, so they will win. Once-a-season suits will get the best view in the house.

Had a season ticket for 25 years - through the shit and the dross. Will probably jack it in when it does happen - kids (8 year season card & 4 year season card) will be disappointed but its not just about watching the match - it's a social thing as well, we have a great crowd around us that have great banter which is a big part of my "match day experience" which will be lost if we are forced to move. Shame really .

Arrange to all move together

Not a simple as that yorkie - there are 8 of us mates who have sat together since the days of the "sitting" kippax - we also have made friends with about a Dozen or so "neighbours" - not easy to get 8 good seats together never mind 20 when 5000 other fans are thinking the same .

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

I've not received an email and i'm a season ticket holder...have these only been sent to people who will be potentially affected?

 

[TueartsOHK]

How will this affect the out of town City fans who go to say 10 games a season? Will it mean more seats going over to Corporate and less available to say blue membership card holders? It pisses me off when I can't buy tickets for games when we see so many empty seats - I can see this getting worse following the ground extension.

How could 6,500 extra seats either end possibly mean it would get worse for getting tickets?

I got the impression that even with the extra seats (which were going to season card holders only) some of the previous seats that were up for open sale would be converted to corporate. I don't know this so was asking the question :-)

 

[TueartsOHK]

How will this affect the out of town City fans who go to say 10 games a season? Will it mean more seats going over to Corporate and less available to say blue membership card holders? It pisses me off when I can't buy tickets for games when we see so many empty seats - I can see this getting worse following the ground extension.

More seats = less availability?

How does that work?

My question was more seats for whom? If it means some more seats to go on open sale in the weeks before the game then great. But the wording of the email says:

This proposed expansion of the stadium will allow the club to introduce a new season ticket for £299, and to double its hospitality offer too, from 2,500 corporate seats to 5,000.

Perhaps there will be addtional seats but I was asking if this would be the case as it's not specifically mentioned as the objective of this proposal.