Star Wars - Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

[Alex - City Matters]

Palpatine is my favourite, or at least one of, my favourite characters in the Star Wars Universe. However, he cannot and should not come back in a physical form in The Rise of Skywalker.

If he does, it essentially ruins the entire plot arc of the first six movies. The rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. If the Emperor is to return, then Anakin's sacrifice was all for nothing.

But, then, that is essentially the problem with this entire sequel trilogy. What's the point in it? It's all very much the same. An all powerful Empire (see First Order) against a plucky band of rebels. I saw a really good suggestion a few months ago, that this trilogy should have been about a challenge to the legacy of what Anakin and the original heroes had set up. For those that are aware of the Legends content, something like the Yuuzhan Vong.

 

[Manc in London]

I hope not, as it wouldn't be much of a reveal considering it's essentially already canon that Palpatine and his master Darth Plagueis inadvertently created Anakin Skywalker.

I didn't know it was canon.To be fair, there is a lot of canon material that would still be a reveal to most.

 

[Thorin Oakenshield]

Palpatine is my favourite, or at least one of, my favourite characters in the Star Wars Universe. However, he cannot and should not come back in a physical form in The Rise of Skywalker.

If he does, it essentially ruins the entire plot arc of the first six movies. The rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. If the Emperor is to return, then Anakin's sacrifice was all for nothing.

But, then, that is essentially the problem with this entire sequel trilogy. What's the point in it? It's all very much the same. An all powerful Empire (see First Order) against a plucky band of rebels. I saw a really good suggestion a few months ago, that this trilogy should have been about a challenge to the legacy of what Anakin and the original heroes had set up. For those that are aware of the Legends content, something like the Yuuzhan Vong.

My idea for this trilogy basically would have been Luke Vs Leia. Politically it would have similar to the northern irish situation. I imagined after the battle of endor that the empire did not fall, it fractured into 2/3 separate armies. Because endor was such a cataclysmic loss of leadership I imagine a few admirals/generals would have claimed themselves to be next in line to palpatine.

So these imperial factions would have fought each other while the rebellion would have grown it's armada again. Eventually the rebels would sign a peace treaty with one of the factions, this peace brokered by Luke. The terms being that the faction could keep its systems in return for helping the rebels liberate the other systems. Together they would have destroyed the other factions. So for the first time in two decades there was a peace. But not everyone agreed...

Leia would have been severely opposed to allowing an imperial faction to survive. After witnessing her planet destroyed she promised herself she would fight to the death to rid the galaxy of imperial rule. After the peace treaty she set up a guerilla unit, similar to the IRA, and continued to fight the Imperial Faction, much to the annoyance of the Republic.

That would have been the backstory. Leia would have been the antagonist, not the bad guy. I want her motive for going to war to be relatable.

 

[mccity]

My favourite character was always Jar Jar Binks. But apparently that's not ok.

 

[Thorin Oakenshield]

My favourite character was always Jar Jar Binks. But apparently that's not ok.

It wasn't in the 2000s but now it is ok to like him. Personally never saw what all the hate was about. Sure he was in practically every scene but he brought some liveliness to the movie.

Mind you I was 11 when TPM came out so I was probably the target audience

 

[urban genie]

Palpatine is my favourite, or at least one of, my favourite characters in the Star Wars Universe. However, he cannot and should not come back in a physical form in The Rise of Skywalker.

If he does, it essentially ruins the entire plot arc of the first six movies. The rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. If the Emperor is to return, then Anakin's sacrifice was all for nothing.

But, then, that is essentially the problem with this entire sequel trilogy. What's the point in it? It's all very much the same. An all powerful Empire (see First Order) against a plucky band of rebels. I saw a really good suggestion a few months ago, that this trilogy should have been about a challenge to the legacy of what Anakin and the original heroes had set up. For those that are aware of the Legends content, something like the Yuuzhan Vong.

Canon allows for palpatine to have survived, albeit badly injured the RotJ plot(you never see him die afterall), his galactic star destroyer was shot down over Jakku not long after Endor, and Jakku was suposardly home to Sidius's secret labarotory.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rey turns out to be a product of some cloning experiment to bring him back and his force ghost/essence possess such a clone. Hence her dark side persona on the trailer.

Even pre disney a lot of the old canon had palpatines return in them.

 

[urban genie]

It wasn't in the 2000s but now it is ok to like him. Personally never saw what all the hate was about. Sure he was in practically every scene but he brought some liveliness to the movie.

Mind you I was 11 when TPM came out so I was probably the target audience

And he was the secret second Sith Lord

 

[Machiavelli]

And he was the secret second Sith Lord

Yes, mesa tha true Phantom Menace.

Star Wars’ Verbal Kint.

 

[Alex - City Matters]

Canon allows for palpatine to have survived, albeit badly injured the RotJ plot(you never see him die afterall), his galactic star destroyer was shot down over Jakku not long after Endor, and Jakku was suposardly home to Sidius's secret labarotory.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rey turns out to be a product of some cloning experiment to bring him back and his force ghost/essence possess such a clone. Hence her dark side persona on the trailer.

Even pre disney a lot of the old canon had palpatines return in them.

It wasn't his Super Star Destroyer that was shot down over Jakku. It was its sister ship. Palpatine's cruiser, the Eclipse, was sent to the Unknown Regions shortly before his death on the Second Death Star, as Palpatine's droids and computers had finished their calculations that had found a way through the storms and other obstacles there.

That was the point of Jakku, Palpatine intended that if he died then the Empire in its current guise could not survive. He tasked Gallius Rax with assembling the entire Imperial Remnant on Jakku where they would battle the New Republic. The Laboratory on Jakku enabled the entire planet to destroy itself; thus destroying Palpatine's Empire and the New Republic.

Of course, Palpatine did survive a lot of pre-Disney, but, importantly, it was never his physical body. It was always his ghost / sentinel. This allowed Anakin's redemption arc to still stand. That is why I don't think the Emperor will be back in physical form.

 

[urban genie]

It wasn't his Super Star Destroyer that was shot down over Jakku. It was its sister ship. Palpatine's cruiser, the Eclipse, was sent to the Unknown Regions shortly before his death on the Second Death Star, as Palpatine's droids and computers had finished their calculations that had found a way through the storms and other obstacles there.

That was the point of Jakku, Palpatine intended that if he died then the Empire in its current guise could not survive. He tasked Gallius Rax with assembling the entire Imperial Remnant on Jakku where they would battle the New Republic. The Laboratory on Jakku enabled the entire planet to destroy itself; thus destroying Palpatine's Empire and the New Republic.

Of course, Palpatine did survive a lot of pre-Disney, but, importantly, it was never his physical body. It was always his ghost / sentinel. This allowed Anakin's redemption arc to still stand. That is why I don't think the Emperor will be back in physical form.

Aye you know what I meant, with the eclipse, been a while so was sketchy onthe details.

Also as I said Rey may well end up possessed by sidiuos force ghost or whatever, I don't expect ro see hin in full physical form.