Sterling and the hate he gets

[Phil1]

When Portugal went out in 2012, everyone blamed Ronaldo for putting himself 5th in the list. They ended up going out before he took his penalty and loads of people criticised him for not taking an early penalty.

Like I said, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, its just highly unusual. No coincidence that Ronaldo is also a player who people love to hate.

 

[Hoghead]

Forget the one he smashed into the top corner to win the Carabao at Wembley?

I haven't forgotten that. Top bins as Pep said but still his penalty taking conversion rate isn't good. Rashford and Sancho better.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Exactly, I can't imagine for a single solitary moment, Southgate and/or his staff didn't watch any penalty taking and just took a guess at who should take them, they'll have watched and noted it all and for a myriad of reasons, gone with who they felt best suited, regardless of name or status.

Not only that. Everybody knew as soon as the two finalists were known that there was a decent chance of this going to penalties. There will have been some discussion between Southgate and the players individually about how they felt about it, in advance. I'd be utterly astonished if there wasn't. Because that's how management works. And Raz may well have said — not out of any fear of his own ego being bruised, but with the best interests of the team at heart — no, there are others here who are better at it than me, their track record proves it, if it comes to penalties, they should be the ones. This is not a question of having balls, or having heart. It's a question of being responsible to the greater interests of the collective. If the list in @domalino post #295 above is to be trusted, Rashford has a very good record on penalties, and Sancho, while not having taken many, is 100%. Both in any case better than Raheem's. Raheem does many good things on the pitch. Apart from anything else, he is a superb diver (nota bene: JJ) Penalties isn't one of them.
Saka, though, is a strange choice, assuming it was taken in advance. And if he said yes, well, that's youth rushing in. Southgate shouldn't really have envisaged it. Has to be said, though, the main damage had been done at that point.

Haven't paid any attention to the media, incidentally. It'd wind me up too much. Are there really papers and pundits blaming Grealish and Sterling? Did that fucker Keane really put blame on both of them? I wish he'd just fuck right off. Preferably to Wormwood Scrubs, for a good long stretch — for criminal assault.

 

[Busmo Funbag]

If I was Raheem I'd have fucked off playing for England years ago. He has very little to gain, he's expected to bring glory for the morons to define themselves and their country by but even when he does, it's never enough and god forbid he fails. There's an extremely grim dynamic at play which is broader than just being about Raheem but clearly he gets the worst of it. I think the tweet below sets out nicely what that dynamic is and the right wing press like the Sun and the Mail have been complicit in fostering the dynamic, particularly where Raheem is concerned.

 

[domalino]

Not only that. Everybody knew as soon as the two finalists were known that there was a decent chance of this going to penalties. There will have been some discussion between Southgate and the players individually about how they felt about it, in advance. I'd be utterly astonished if there wasn't. Because that's how management works. And Raz may well have said — not out of any fear of his own ego being bruised, but with the best interests of the team at heart — no, there are others here who are better at it than me, their track record proves it, if it comes to penalties, they should be the ones. This is not a question of having balls, or having heart. It's a question of being responsible to the greater interests of the collective. If the list in @domalino post #295 above is to be trusted, Rashford has a very good record on penalties, and Sancho, while not having taken many, is 100%. Both in any case better than Raheem's. Raheem does many good things on the pitch. Apart from anything else, he is a superb diver (nota bene: JJ) Penalties isn't one of them.
Saka, though, is a strange choice, assuming it was taken in advance. And if he said yes, well, that's youth rushing in. Southgate shouldn't really have envisaged it. Has to be said, though, the main damage had been done at that point.

Haven't paid any attention to the media, incidentally. It'd wind me up too much. Are there really papers and pundits blaming Grealish and Sterling? Did that fucker Keane really put blame on both of them? I wish he'd just fuck right off. Preferably to Wormwood Scrubs, for a good long stretch — for criminal assault.

Since the 2018 world cup they've kept a league table of who is best at penalties from every single practice and match the England squad plays. We know that for certain. It's been reported they based last nights list of 5 on that league table.

I expect what happened is Saka got picked because he was high up the league table among the squad. You can see in the video going round, Southgate is dithering on the last taker, probably because he didn't want to pick such a young kid, but in the end as is very typical for this England side, they trusted the numbers.

5th is the best place to put him also. A lot of shootouts don't get to the 10th penalty.

 

[ballbag]

I was glad he didn't step up - because he probably would have missed. Thought he'd be free of all the shit.

Took 3 minutes after the last penalty for the rags I know to start with the shite on FB and Twitter of how he should have stepped up - the same thick fucks that say he can't shoot.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Since the 2018 world cup they've kept a league table of who is best at penalties from every single practice and match the England squad plays. We know that for certain. It's been reported they based last nights list of 5 on that league table.

I expect what happened is Saka got picked because he was high up the league table among the squad. You can see in the video going round, Southgate is dithering on the last taker, probably because he didn't want to pick such a young kid, but in the end as is very typical for this England side, they trusted the numbers.

5th is the best place to put him also. A lot of shootouts don't get to the 10th penalty.

Yeah but those that do go to the fifth penalty means you absolutely have to score.... no pressure there then, and the England should have been sensible enough to have seen that.

Kane should have said to Sakai, you go first because if you miss, I'll be right behind you to compensate, the pressure on any fifth penalty taker will always be massive and the greatest.

 

[Gray]

Yeah but those that do go to the fifth penalty means you absolutely have to score.... no pressure there then, and the England should have been sensible enough to have seen that.

Kane should have said to Sakai, you go first because if you miss, I'll be right behind you to compensate, the pressure on any fifth penalty taker will always be massive and the greatest.

The penalty miss by Rashord was crucial as England would have gone ahead on the count and Italy would have been under pressure. Why he decided on taking it the way he did is bloody baffling, just run up and belt it.

 

[Corky]

Yeah but those that do go to the fifth penalty means you absolutely have to score.... no pressure there then, and the England should have been sensible enough to have seen that.

Kane should have said to Sakai, you go first because if you miss, I'll be right behind you to compensate, the pressure on any fifth penalty taker will always be massive and the greatest.

Same for the 6th, 7th, 8th etc.

Sterling was 5th in a shootout to win it, he missed (keeper save) and the next 20 were scored.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Only Sterling can not be the one to miss a penalty in a penalty shootout but still be the villain. Only Sterling can win a penalty that is confirmed after a VAR review to get his country to a first final in 55 years and still the general consensus be that it was not a penalty at all.

How he copes is beyond me, it's fucking exhausted me just to watch it happen to him.

There's a few on here who can't wait to wade in at every opportunity also.

Sterling was one of the players of the Euro's. Anyone slating him for how he performed for England is a **** IMO.