Still angry

oakiecokie said:
Your namesake. ;)
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Ha, yeah, people stamping their feet because we haven't won the league. But we have the best squad? We don't-ageing and injury prone. Yet despite having a 'clown' and a 'fraud' for a manager here we are on the eve of what may be our greatest triumph.
 
It´s great for Leicester and it shows what can happen if you have some decent but unspectacular players supplemented by a 2 or 3 very good ones. If you throw in a manager who knows what he is doing with the squad he has set in front of him then you have a chance especially if you don´t get too many injuries and don´t have too many other competitions to play in.

This does not exempt some of the other teams/managers from criticism, especially us and Arsenal who had the tools to have done a whole lot better. Ranieri has shown Wenger and Pellegrini to be very average managers, especially in the motivational department.
 
as I said months ago and for some reason this prick @Damocles decided to say see what I say when it's all done and dusted? Same response it's an embarrassment that we haven't even cemented top 4 yet never mind the league. Leicester have won the league with two games to spare which we have never done (always came down to the final day)
 
bert38 said:
Ha, yeah, people stamping their feet because we haven't won the league. But we have the best squad? We don't-ageing and injury prone. Yet despite having a 'clown' and a 'fraud' for a manager here we are on the eve of what may be our greatest triumph.
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Had we as a team shown half the commitment that the Leicester team have shown,we wouldn`t be in this position,playing a game on Sunday that could determine our CL place for next season.
But shit, can we win the CL ? We may have to if we want CL football next season and considering we have struggled all season against the top teams,I aint confident about the Gooners match.
 
bluemoon98 said:
as I said months ago and for some reason this prick @Damocles decided to say see what I say when it's all done and dusted? Same response it's an embarrassment that we haven't even cemented top 4 yet never mind the league. Leicester have won the league with two games to spare which we have never done (always came down to the final day)
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Why is it an embarrassment? There is no divine right. We haven't played well all season for a number of factors, but mainly injuries and a declining squad that FFP affected more than people realise. There is still everything to play for. We may miss out but so be it.
 
We're not really here said:
Whilst the world has jumped on the Leicester bandwagon and everyone seems to be giving them hearty congratulations and slapping them on the back I just feel angry. Really, really angry. That is my only emotion. Fair play to them and all that but how the fuck are they Champions?
At this moment in time, and I admit this may change dramatically by tomorrow night, I really could kick our lazy, arrogant team all around their plush dressing room. I don't think anybody would deny we have the most talented team so how are we labouring to scrape 4th place and miles behind bloody Leicester?
The answer is because they don't fucking care. They don't want to work. Don't want to run and chase. They don't want it badly enough. They are a team of pampered superstars led by a weak, ineffectual manager. Souness was spot on. They pick and choose when they can be arsed. Sevilla, Kiev, Paris. Yeah we'll make an effort. Sadly those performances are greatly outweighed by lazy, shit displays.
So sorry Leicester I don't feel your joy at all. I'm pissed off and I can only hope those in charge at our club feel the same way.
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Buck stops with the manager. It's up to him to motivate the team. No excusing some of the players or even Txiki - you only have to look at Nacho's performance on Sunday to see what a 19 year old academy player can give you - but Pellegrini is the one who picks the team. He's the one's whose responsibility it is to pick the RIGHT players and the RIGHT tactics and he fails far too many times on both of those fronts. Kolarov's performance on Sunday was criminal, it was even more criminal he wasn't pulled off! I don't care if there was no proper left back on the bench (don't actually know if Clichy mad the bench) but he should have been hauled off at HT. Our players are allowed to get away with murder.
 
bugsyblue said:
Buck stops with the manager. It's up to him to motivate the team. No excusing some of the players or even Txiki - you only have to look at Nacho's performance on Sunday to see what a 19 year old academy player can give you - but Pellegrini is the one who picks the team. He's the one's whose responsibility it is to pick the RIGHT players and the RIGHT tactics and he fails far too many times on both of those fronts. Kolarov's performance on Sunday was criminal, it was even more criminal he wasn't pulled off! I don't care if there was no proper left back on the bench (don't actually know if Clichy mad the bench) but he should have been hauled off at HT. Our players are allowed to get away with murder.
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Totally agree.
 
oakiecokie said:
The people who are giving Leicester no credit at all and behaving like bitter Rags.We have NO divine right to win anything and the sooner people begin to realise that the better.We used to criticise like fuck the Rags but unfortunately we also have some bitters on board.By the way I`m not the first to recognise this.
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You know what? I absolutely agree with you but why call them bitter berties ffs?
 
We're not really here said:
Whilst the world has jumped on the Leicester bandwagon and everyone seems to be giving them hearty congratulations and slapping them on the back I just feel angry. Really, really angry. That is my only emotion. Fair play to them and all that but how the fuck are they Champions?
At this moment in time, and I admit this may change dramatically by tomorrow night, I really could kick our lazy, arrogant team all around their plush dressing room. I don't think anybody would deny we have the most talented team so how are we labouring to scrape 4th place and miles behind bloody Leicester?
The answer is because they don't fucking care. They don't want to work. Don't want to run and chase. They don't want it badly enough. They are a team of pampered superstars led by a weak, ineffectual manager. Souness was spot on. They pick and choose when they can be arsed. Sevilla, Kiev, Paris. Yeah we'll make an effort. Sadly those performances are greatly outweighed by lazy, shit displays.
So sorry Leicester I don't feel your joy at all. I'm pissed off and I can only hope those in charge at our club feel the same way.
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Chill out ffs pal
 
bert38 said:
Why is it an embarrassment? There is no divine right. We haven't played well all season for a number of factors, but mainly injuries and a declining squad that FFP affected more than people realise. There is still everything to play for. We may miss out but so be it.
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I agree wholeheartedly about FFP. I mean we've only been able to spend circa £300,000,000.00 since Pellegrini took over :-S
 
Some showed, yet again, why a lot of professional footballers are not well liked. Poor attitude, lack of effort etc. If Pep was in any doubt then Sunday confirmed what we've all known for some time now. Bony, Kolarov, Demichilis, Delph, Nasri and Zabaleta probably need to move on now. I feel sorry for Zab. but he's struggling. Bony and Delph just not good enough for a top 4 team. Nasri, Kolarov poor attitude and too inconsistent. I thought Nasri had turned a corner and come back with desire and hunger to prove to Pep whah he can do but at times on Sunday he was strolling around sulking like a petulant child. Another at the end of his time is Yaya. He's been a great servant but we need more energy and pace in the team. Time for change and unlike Pellegrini we can't be too sentimental
 
According to all the football data available we have had the most injuries, and the most long term injuries this season then any other team in the prem. So it is no wonder that we have not been able to mount a challenge for the title this season. Hopefully next season we will be able to avoid having so many injuries as we had this season and mount a strong challenge for the title.
 
Eds said:
Who would most people want in their team, Kompany, Silva, KDB and Aguero or Huth, Drinkwater, Vardy and Albrighton? FFS we should have pissed this league and to think the dippers only got second with 86 points.
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I take your point here EDS. On paper, City have a far superior team. However, you've picked probably City's best players (on paper) & excluded 2 or 3 of Leicester's best - Mahrez, Kante & Schmeichel. If you replace Drinkwater & Albrighton with Mahrez & Kante, then you're comparing like with like. Then consider that these 4 players have racked up 139 PL appearances this season compared to 94 for the selected quartet from City.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing with your point, but if your best players aren't on the pitch, there's little they can do.
Add to that Silva's been playing with an injury all season, Nasri's been injured all season, Delph was injured for most of the season & City were fighting on 4 fronts for much of the season so some players weren't getting a rest, & that accounts for some of the problems this season.
Other factors I would include (not down to effort on the part of players):
1. Navas' inability to beat a player (other than by speed) & inability to score
2. The decision to send Denayer out on loan & keep Demichelis
3. The slow start to the season by Otamendi & Mangala when playing together
4. Probably a season too far for YaYa (love him though)
5. Ditto Zaba
6. The almost inexplicable choice of Bony over Iheanacho
7. Kolarov's inability to defend coupled with his compunction to attack
8. The way City were set up to play against Leicester at the Etihad (the only chance Leicester had of winning)
9. The inconsistency of Sterling

Most of the criticism of City this season has been aimed at players "not turning up". I would argue some are not good enough (whether they try or not) & the coaching of some individual players (Sterling, Navas, Mangala, Otamendi) & the way the team is set up to play for specific games has not been up to scratch
 
Eds said:
Who would most people want in their team, Kompany, Silva, KDB and Aguero or Huth, Drinkwater, Vardy and Albrighton? FFS we should have pissed this league and to think the dippers only got second with 86 points.
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One big difference here. Every one of those City players you name have had major injuries keeping them out and often more than once.

Leicester have not.

That is the key problem because we lost players at critical periods where we could have put a run together and beaten top sides with our full squad.

Not the only reason by any means, of course. But a key factor we identified on here in the autumn and that never really let up.

But then the manager has been a dead duck for a while now and making judgements he might not have made if it was him playing in the Europa League next season not his replacement. And the back up players who mostly feel or know they won't be playing Europa here next season either and possibly even CL with some small nation team so they have not had the motivation or pride to care about getting others into it.

All of these things will surely change next year under Pep. So all we have to do is try to win the next two PL games with our strongest squad and pick the team for Pellegrini if he will not guarantee that it only consists of 11 players who WILL be here next year and so desperately care about getting into the CL.

No showboating send offs for his mates who will be leaving the club with him and who he wants to wave to the crowd. Something I think might really be a consideration with Pellegrini.

Leicester had the injury free situation going for them (most stable team in the PL apparently massively helped by no Europe so easy to play a consistent squad) and they had a great manager focused fully on this year because he likely knew it was his and his team's only big chance to pull this off. And he was basically Pelle/Pep - a nice guy that the players like but with motivational skills who got this team playing for each other and believing they were better than they are.

He will have clubs swarming all over him this Summer with big offers.

That is why Leicester have won the league. 100% deservedly. It proves money alone is not the only thing that creates success. It sure helps, of course, though! But it can be overcome if a team plays as a team and fights for the cause and has a few things working for them.

We should be saying well done as it is a fantastic story that people will talk about forever and has won over many non football fans to the sport. Some of whom might even come to City matches next year.

And we should learn from it to motivate our new look team next season under Pep.

Which I suspect is what will happen.

Next year will be one heck of a scrap for the title and Leicester will probably finish around where Chelsea are now. And that might be the way of it for a few years now with the Sky mega money kicking in. Another Leicester could happen. Not every year. But also not once a century either. Maybe every five years there could be a surprise team pushing up the table.

The PL and the game is better for it.

And so are we because we will all have to work harder to win the PL and - with the levelling out of the money - the team that does win it will always have earned it. Not bought it.

That media claptrap will be silenced as one happy side effect.

So well done Leicester.
 
I agree with the OP, I couldn't care less about Leicester winning it, with the side we have we should be winning the league at a canter. That isn't me behaving like a "spoilt rag" that is me looking at how much we have spent, looking at our playing staff and believing that this season, with Chelsea imploding, United nowhere to be seen and Arsenal being Arsenal we should have won the league by February. Instead we are struggling to finish top 4, in a league won by Leicester, a league where Spurs are likely to finish 2nd and a league where West Ham are right up our arse. You can buy into all the fairy-tale stuff if you like, I wont, Pellegrini has been an absolute disaster.

The decline in the quality of the side has been there for all to see over the past 18 months under his leadership. He won the title and should be leaving the club a hero but instead many fans cant wait for him to go. He is tactically inept and is clearly unable to motivate the players, that on Sunday was an absolute disgrace and was like watching us 20 years ago.

Its not all Pellegrinis fault, the player recruitment from Txiki has been terrible. Millions wasted on centre-backs, no improvement in full-backs for years, Kolarov was no good 5 years ago yet hes still in the side. We've let countless center-midfielders go and continually replaced them with inferior players, Gareth Barry wasn't good enough for where we wanted to be, yet we replaced him with a worse player in Garcia and then replaced him with someone who looks like he is carrying a fridge-freezer on his back in Fernando. We haven't signed a top-class striker since Aguero, we have wasted millions trying to do so but consistently end up cursing because we have nobody to replace him when he is injured.

I live in hope that we can somehow fluke a Champions League win and then the season will suddenly become a success, however I feel getting knocked out this week and then failing to finish top 4 is more likely. In this scenario the club is left in turmoil and the media would absolutely slaughter us, loving the fact that Pep is coming in without CL football. Pellegrini will be ok though, he walks away with the world stating that he is a really nice guy and his head held high despite being a complete failure.
 
City_Sean said:
This club is far too nice, it's a good job we have Pep as he's the ruthless bastard we need. If he was on charge on Sunday Kolarov would have been dropped after the second goal.

The more I think about it the more I think a huge amount of people are going to be fucked off this summer.
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If its a case of the club being too nice then who's fault is it? We have had players down tools for Mancini and by all accounts its happening under Pellegrini.

Why the fuck will it be any different under Pep who by all accounts will only be here for three seasons?

Is it a recruitment issue?
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Its not all Pellegrinis fault, the player recruitment from Txiki has been terrible. Millions wasted on centre-backs, no improvement in full-backs for years, Kolarov was no good 5 years ago yet hes still in the side. We've let countless center-midfielders go and continually replaced them with inferior players, Gareth Barry wasn't good enough for where we wanted to be, yet we replaced him with a worse player in Garcia and then replaced him with someone who looks like he is carrying a fridge-freezer on his back in Fernando. We haven't signed a top-class striker since Aguero, we have wasted millions trying to do so but consistently end up cursing because we have nobody to replace him when he is injured.
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I agree with all of your post but this bit particularly. We have been spectacularly shit in the transfer market since 2011 bar the odd decent one like De Bruyne.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I agree with all of your post but this bit particularly. We have been spectacularly shit in the transfer market since 2011 bar the odd decent one like De Bruyne.
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Yep. Its like our transfer "policy" has been hit and hope, also do the club fucking employ any scouts? If so, then they are extremely shit at their job.
 
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