Suarez & Diving

without a dream said:
willipp said:
And look where fairplay gets you, absolutely nowhere other than people saying what a good bloke you are. Jarvis last night gets slated of Neville for not going down and winning his team a penalty and even big Sam said he should of gone down. I know there is a big difference between full on diving like Suarez does, but they are effectively saying that if your touched you should go down. Im at a point where i agree. If the difference to us winning the league was Sergio going down easily in the box last game of the season or staying on his feet and getting nothing other than a pat on the back i know what id be taking.

The issue is that refs don't give the foul unless you go down. You can be fouled without being knocked/tripped over but other than for completely blatant shirt pulling when was the last foul given when someone hasn't hit the deck?

Absolutely agree, the ref wouldnt give it unless he falls theatrically on the floor. If Jarvis had gone down Arsenal fans would have gone mental at him calling him a cheat. In reality all he is doing is allowing the contact to send him over rather than doing what he did and trying to stay on his feet. I despise diving when there is no contact or even worse for me is when they kick the player on purpose to create contact and then go down. I just think that being an honest player like Jarvis was, gets you nowhere and he should of gone down.
 
RyanP3609 said:
kippaxblue76 said:
oakiecokie said:
Thats why I lose my temper at the home games when Dzeko goes rolling all over the pitch.A fucking big bloke like him shouldn`t go down that easily,but honestly it does my fucking "Edin".


As DeNiro posted earlier, review panel after the weekends fixtures and any blatant dive gets an automatic 3 game ban, problem solved.

It's too obvious, the FA don't do obvious, they'd much prefer to focus on something that doesn't really effect the game and tweak that.

I remember when diving was big news and after it being discussed at length (I think it might have been Balotelli but not sure) for about 2/3 weekends players were booked, first time, straight away for diving. I thought, wow, it's actually looking like it's going to stick.

Then certain English players (Rooney/Gerrard/Young) all did it and nothing was done, in most of the cases pens were given, and I knew it'd slowly fade away again back as the "norm". Now it only seems to be when certain refs feel like giving a yellow for it they sometimes will, did Yaya get booked for one the other week? I hate seeing our players do it and as soon as one does i'll be shouting for him to get up and get on with it. The aftermatch ban needs to be introduced as players like Suarez/Rooney/Young are a cancer on the game when they do this sort of diving, cheating shit. (that includes the odd time our players do it too).

But no, instead there focus is ensuring the usual 4 are as high up as they possibly can be, whilst the media conveniently fail to discuss it in any form of media (Even defending it as we saw on MOTD and Suarez), meaning nothing will change and it'll continue to infect our game.

I mean Suarez is even praised for it at Anfield, winning by any means as long as your a winner seems to be enough for them. Fuck "Fair Play".
Happened again earlier this season and then certain managers (Gollum, Rodgers, Maureen) made a massive fuss over their worst divers getting a couple of genuinely bad challenges and the focus of debate changed and divers stopped getting booked.
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/tsf-diary/16591/intimidation-of-referees-is-acceptable/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/arti ... cceptable/</a> , great article here , basically saying clattenburg chose not to send suarez off because it would have dented the media and neutral fans hopes of a liverpool title win , it just not right , so its ok to hamper our chances then ? Ok fair enough we have certainly been below par in certain games recently and not helped ourselves but it surely would help if referees didnt have hidden agendas.
 
Robinho's Subbuteo said:
Scouser said:
Don't blame the player. Blame the game. YNWA

Is that not a bit like saying don't blame the shooter blame the gun?
Don't blame the rapist. Blame society.
 

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