without a dream said:willipp said:And look where fairplay gets you, absolutely nowhere other than people saying what a good bloke you are. Jarvis last night gets slated of Neville for not going down and winning his team a penalty and even big Sam said he should of gone down. I know there is a big difference between full on diving like Suarez does, but they are effectively saying that if your touched you should go down. Im at a point where i agree. If the difference to us winning the league was Sergio going down easily in the box last game of the season or staying on his feet and getting nothing other than a pat on the back i know what id be taking.
The issue is that refs don't give the foul unless you go down. You can be fouled without being knocked/tripped over but other than for completely blatant shirt pulling when was the last foul given when someone hasn't hit the deck?
Absolutely agree, the ref wouldnt give it unless he falls theatrically on the floor. If Jarvis had gone down Arsenal fans would have gone mental at him calling him a cheat. In reality all he is doing is allowing the contact to send him over rather than doing what he did and trying to stay on his feet. I despise diving when there is no contact or even worse for me is when they kick the player on purpose to create contact and then go down. I just think that being an honest player like Jarvis was, gets you nowhere and he should of gone down.