Super League - Positives only!

Positives:

Higher income -afford player salaries
Global exposure
Ref impartial...hopefully
Var used properly...hopefully
Another chance to win a trophy
No BT sports bias
No Sly Sports bias
Inclusion is not an illusion
exciting matches

If this goes ahead it could mimic the change in football that occurred in 1992. We have a great opportunity to make sure the club is relevant and competitive for many years in the future.

If we want to sit at the top table in world football then we have to embrace the change. If we don’t then the owner might aswell sell up now. We can’t keep fighting these clubs. Were has it got us these last 10 years? Maybe the narrative will start to change once the dust settles. We can have a bigger impact from inside the vipers nest.
 
Positives:

Higher income -afford player salaries
Global exposure
Ref impartial...hopefully
Var used properly...hopefully
Another chance to win a trophy
No BT sports bias
No Sly Sports bias
Inclusion is not an illusion
exciting matches

If this goes ahead it could mimic the change in football that occurred in 1992. We have a great opportunity to make sure the club is relevant and competitive for many years in the future.

If we want to sit at the top table in world football then we have to embrace the change. If we don’t then the owner might aswell sell up now. We can’t keep fighting these clubs. Were has it got us these last 10 years? Maybe the narrative will start to change once the dust settles. We can have a bigger impact from inside the vipers nest.
So greed is good and we stay relevant?
 

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Positives:

Higher income -afford player salaries
Global exposure
Ref impartial...hopefully
Var used properly...hopefully
Another chance to win a trophy
No BT sports bias
No Sly Sports bias
Inclusion is not an illusion
exciting matches

If this goes ahead it could mimic the change in football that occurred in 1992. We have a great opportunity to make sure the club is relevant and competitive for many years in the future.

If we want to sit at the top table in world football then we have to embrace the change. If we don’t then the owner might aswell sell up now. We can’t keep fighting these clubs. Were has it got us these last 10 years? Maybe the narrative will start to change once the dust settles. We can have a bigger impact from inside the vipers nest.
 
I honestly don't know because I haven't seen the full proposals yet, but for my part, I don't think this instant knee-jerk reaction is right.

I'm thinking of FIFA, the corruption scandal that went on for years, which was as clear as it could be without actually seeing any evidence, yet was allowed to continue (and even now, has anybody been charged? Do we know what Blatter and Platini made out of it, if anything? Has any of it been paid back?) Has anything really changed now?

Look at the decision to host the World Cup in Qatar. Nobody is ever going to convince me that wasn't decided long before the live TV draw, but it's been allowed to go on virtually unchallenged.

Look at the current Euro format. The likes of Steaua Bucharest, Benfica or Feyenoord are never likely to win it again in it's current format and it's already biased towards the bigger clubs, with they being the ones who are most likely to progress through the group stages, and even those who don't are put into the UEFA League and have far more chance of winning it than the smaller clubs. Those competitions without the "Super" clubs are surely going to benefit other clubs who are not going to be likely to have to get past Dortmund, Real Madrid and Barcelona to get to the latter stages.

Look at what's happened to Bury. To clubs like Dover Athletic, who someone mentioned earlier who have been deducted points and fined for having to furlough staff and not been able to complete fixtures. Has the current set up helped them in any way? Not at all.

If this new Super League says that they're going to put money back into the game as a whole isn't that a good thing.

If the "Super" clubs have more money, doesn't that mean they're likely to pay a lot more for a player than they do now? That could be a massive pay day for a smaller club.

Doesn't it give smaller clubs the chance to win the title or the FA Cup, given that the "Super" clubs are likely to reserve their better players for the Super League? We've already seen this happening for years in the League Cup and to a lesser degree, the FA Cup.

All I'm saying is I think all these things need to be looked at, rather than just saying right from the word go that it's a bad thing.
 
great summary, we are better trying to control our own destiny. Still think there is a long way to go with this at the moment we are seeing a lot of so called fury from the Premier League but when the dust settles there will be no expulsions, can't see Sky and BY finding a devalued competition
 
I would also say that City (and possibly Arsenal and Spurs) were probably put in an untenable position anyway. If it were to go ahead they must have all been aware that there would be a bad reaction, and almost certainly the threat of expulsion from certain (or all) competitions.

In that event, given the money the owners have put in over the past decade, you can understand it if they didn't want to be left in the position of finding that the biggest club they're likely to play in the future would be the likes of, say, Leicester or Everton. That alone would be likely to devalue the club in terms of advertising revenue etc.

I also think there's a genuine chance that it would benefit smaller clubs as a whole, if the money were to filter down. Surely a relatively small club like Southampton would benefit if we were likely to be able to pay 50% more for someone like Ings, which would be the case because one of the other clubs would if you didn't.

A lot of pundits seem to be talking about this leaving the Premier League behind, but that's only going to happen if these teams are banned from competing in the Prem.

I don't see any huge disadvantage to the clubs being allowed to continue in the Premier League, as the top players would still be playing for the same top clubs overall, it's just that the clubs would be paying more for them.
 
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One other point I would make is would there be the same reaction if UEFA changed the format of the CL to one that is similar to the proposed new Super League? Probably not.

I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not dismissing it either and I think the initial reaction has been a bit OTT.
 
One other point I would make is would there be the same reaction if UEFA changed the format of the CL to one that is similar to the proposed new Super League? Probably not.

I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not dismissing it either and I think the initial reaction has been a bit OTT.
If it was a closed shop with 15 permanent qualifiers the reaction would be just the same.
 

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