Sycamore Gap tree felled | Man in his 60s also arrested

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I thought he was an Instatwatter according to the countryside expert on here.
Looks a right fucking mug now doesn’t he.

Has he accounted for his movements that night? Experienced woodsman, by the sounds of him. Not sure he’d be able to afford a chainsaw, but he could have nicked one.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Honest question is everyone outraged because a centuries old tree got cut down or that this particular centuries old tree got cut down?

Wondering if you will be camping out at Ryebank fields or demanding the arrest of MCC planing department anytine soon for the many centuries old trees felled to build 20 store glass eyesores across our landscape

A Middleton group I’m in on Facebook asked the same yesterday

There’s always green land and trees getting removed round here to accommodate new houses, those shitty new build ones the youngsters seem to crave, but you can’t hang a picture on the wall because they’re built so pathetically poor. Nobody gives a shit about those trees.

 

[urban genie]

What do you think?

Hardly a big mystery, that.

I don't know I genuinely though maybe we may had uncovered a secret socierlty of dendrologist on blue moon we never knew exists, who were going to take down tree fellers nationwide with this as a call to arms.

Also was putting feelers put that if I had posted I wasn't annoyed be this one bit as I had no right to be would there be a braying mob roaming gorton with pitchforks and torches looking for the non believer in birching the **** responsible ;-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Honest question is everyone outraged because a centuries old tree got cut down or that this particular centuries old tree got cut down?

Wondering if you will be camping out at Ryebank fields or demanding the arrest of MCC planing department anytine soon for the many centuries old trees felled to build 20 store glass eyesores across our landscape

For some, I think it’s what the destruction of this particular tree symbolises. Humans fucking up the planet, having no regard for nature. Society, and the rules that bind and constrain us coming apart. An utterly selfish act that gains absolutely nothing and upsets many people, which makes it gratuitous and somewhat cruel.

 

[urban genie]

For some, I think it’s what the destruction of this particular tree symbolises. Humans fucking up the planet, having no regard for nature. Society, and the rules that bind and constrain us coming apart. An utterly selfish act that gains absolutely nothing and upsets many people, which makes it gratuitous and somewhat cruel.

Aye and it is a terrible uncessary and as youp say cruel act and the **** who did it needs prosecuting

however hardly anyone all over social media decrying this have ever given this tree a thought or the others felled many times for no reason, cutting each one down is a cruel act of nature, most angry about this don't give a shit about trees or honestly this tree either.

 

[Coatigan]

I don't know I genuinely though maybe we may had uncovered a secret socierlty of dendrologist on blue moon we never knew exists, who were going to take down tree fellers nationwise woth this as a call to arms.

Also was putting feelers put that if I had posted I wasn't annoyed be this one bit as I had no right to be would there be a braying mob roaming gorton with pitchforks and torches looking for the non believer in birching the **** responsible ;-)

Ok, if you are being genuine rather than flippant.

People are outraged because it is This tree.

It is part of a World Heritage property, protected by the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 and also through the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas), which covers protection of the 'setting' amongst other things. It is not just a bit of odd vandalism, it is vandalism of a monument and listed property, and it is a crime.

Beyond that, the tree is iconic and a big part of shared cultural heritage. It appears in art, films, music videos, photography, painting, literature. It inspired people, lifted people's spirits, attracted and wowed visitors. It was cared for by some (employed to do so), and cared about by many.

It is a significant loss, to a place, to history, and to cultural references, and to some people's affection.

So no, it doesn't really compare to 100s of other trees, felled with permission (or not requiring permission) to make way for approved development decided by someone as being needed and appropriate.

There is a discussion there, of course, about the merits and deteiments of the removal of those trees too. But it is not really a discussion for this thread, or particularly relevant to this tree.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Ok, if you are being genuine rather than flippant.

People are outraged because it is This tree.

It is part of a World Heritage property, protected by the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 and also through the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas), which covers protection of the 'setting' amongst other things. It is not just a bit of odd vandalism, it is vandalism of a monument and listed property, and it is a crime.

Beyond that, the tree is iconic and a big part of shared cultural heritage. It appears in art, films, music videos, photography, painting, literature. It inspired people, lifted people's spirits, attracted and wowed visitors. It was cared for by some (employed to do so), and cared about by many.

It is a significant loss, to a place, to history, and to cultural references, and to some people's affection.

So no, it doesn't really compare to 100s of other trees, felled with permission (or not requiring permission) to make way for approved development decided by someone as being needed and appropriate.

There is a discussion there, of course, about the merits and deteiments of the removal of those trees too. But it is not really a discussion for this thread, or particularly relevant to this tree.

100% mate. Great post.

 

[west didsblue]

It looked too close to the wall and could have caused it damage eventually.

Can’t believe it was anything to do with one of Hadrian’s descendants worrying about his wall.

 

[Coatigan]

Aye and it is a terrible uncessary and as youp say cruel act and the **** who did it needs prosecuting

however hardly anyone all over social media decrying this have ever given this tree a thought or the others felled many times for no reason, cutting each one down is a cruel act of nature, most angry about this don't give a shit about trees or honestly this tree either.

There will most likely be people upset about those too pal, or any tree that gets cut down. There are often objections, protests, or even folk tying themselves trees etc over it. And often anger after, as in your own posts for example.

It is a scale thing, we may or may not hear about the outrage to the others, given where they are or how many do it, or how loud.

This tree, being more iconic of greater significance and exposure, will by default see a much more widespread reaction and displays of 'outrage'.

 

[urban genie]

Ok, if you are being genuine rather than flippant.

People are outraged because it is This tree.

It is part of a World Heritage property, protected by the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 and also through the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas), which covers protection of the 'setting' amongst other things. It is not just a bit of odd vandalism, it is vandalism of a monument and listed property, and it is a crime.

Beyond that, the tree is iconic and a big part of shared cultural heritage. It appears in art, films, music videos, photography, painting, literature. It inspired people, lifted people's spirits, attracted and wowed visitors. It was cared for by some (employed to do so), and cared about by many.

It is a significant loss, to a place, to history, and to cultural references, and to some people's affection.

So no, it doesn't really compare to 100s of other trees, felled with permission (or not requiring permission) to make way for approved development decided by someone as being needed and appropriate.

There is a discussion there, of course, about the merits and deteiments of the removal of those trees too. But it is not really a discussion for this thread, or particularly relevant to this tree.

tbf it is relevant and this tree felling opens up that conversation up.

This is act of eco and cultural vandalism and uncessary destruction of a sight of beauty and historic importance, this wantant dispicable act should, be a catalyst for people to say no more destruction of our wetlands, our forests, pur lost rainforests or even one single tree, be it by a **** like this or a developer.

This government in particular is open to destrucrion of our wild areas and if this area in particular could be sold and built on historical signiflicance or not that tree would be felled in an instance to build on.

All I am saying is if you are angry about this be angry when the next historicaly and culturally important tree, marsh land or forest is being considered for development, like the one in Chorlton and many more we will lose