Tactical genius

hgblue said:
Tevez 'in the hole' and Adebayor up front? People have been arguing for that for months.
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BillyShears said:
rastus said:
Why are you not happy or pleased, you must at least be excited?
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Mate, I'm delighted. It was a huge weekend for us in terms of results, and firmly puts us in the driving seat for the race for 4th. It's hard judge anything other than the finishing from Saturday's match because Burnley didn't turn up until an hour into the game. That's not a criticism of us, and you still have to beat what is put in front of you, which we did with consummate ease.

I'll tell you what, if we beat Brum and get a point at least off the rags, then I'll probably be dancing a jig through the streets of Paris because IMO, that will be enough to push us on to 4th. Now that's optimism...;- )
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Nice one Billy, will do the same in the same in the streets of Granada..
 
Shady i have absolutely no problem with you or anyone having an opinion because afterall this is a forum where you post your thoughts but you, de niro and bluemanc just to name a few seem reluctant to give Mancini any credit and it doesn't make any sense. Can we agree that Mancini has come in and done a good job? The first few games weren't easy on the eye but he had to come in and get results and to get results he needed to sort us out defensively because the last 3 games of Hughes' reign we had conceded 3 goals in each of them. Since then we've had spells during games where we've not played well but is that any different to games under Hughes? We have also played some excellent football under Mancini especially in away games at Chelsea (Second half), Sunderland (Second half), Wolves, Fulham and Burnley despite us having an extremely one dimensional centre midfield and us missing Adebayor for most of those games

Mancini's came in and took over a side that had won just 2 of the last 11 leauge games and had no time to assess his squad as he was straight into a run of games so it's fair to say he's done a good job all things considered. Defensively as a unit we have been much improved no matter who the personel in the back four is and we've now got a basis to build on

You make the point about if Mancini was a tactical genius then he'd find a formation and work with it. Well guess what he has done because under him we've been getting on average 2 points per game which is an excellent return and we're now in pole position for 4th whereas when he took over we were 6 points off Villa in 4th with a game in hand

I wasn't the greatest fan of Hughes towards the end of his time here but i come on after the Chelsea game and praised him for getting it spot on, why can't you and certain others give credit where it's due instead of making posts like 'it was only burnley'?
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
Shady i have absolutely no problem with you or anyone having an opinion because afterall this is a forum where you post your thoughts but you, de niro and bluemanc just to name a few seem reluctant to give Mancini any credit and it doesn't make any sense. Can we agree that Mancini has come in and done a good job? The first few games weren't easy on the eye but he had to come in and get results and to get results he needed to sort us out defensively because the last 3 games of Hughes' reign we had conceded 3 goals in each of them. Since then we've had spells during games where we've not played well but is that any different to games under Hughes? We have also played some excellent football under Mancini especially in away games at Chelsea (Second half), Sunderland (Second half), Wolves, Fulham and Burnley despite us having an extremely one dimensional centre midfield and us missing Adebayor for most of those games

Mancini's came in and took over a side that had won just 2 of the last 11 leauge games and had no time to access his squad as he was straight into a run of games so it's fair to say he's done a good job all things considered. Defensively as a unit we have been much improved no matter who the personel in the back four is and we've now got a basis to build on

You make the point about if Mancini was a tactical genius then he'd find a formation and work with it. Well guess what he has done because under him we've been getting on average 2 points per game which is an excellent return and we're now in pole position for 4th whereas when he took over we were 6 points off Villa in 4th with a game in hand

I wasn't the greatest fan of Hughes towards the end of his time here but i come on after the Chelsea game and praised him for getting it spot on, why can't you and certain others give credit where it's due instead of making posts like 'it was only burnley'?
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Well said FB. Well reasoned non-inflammatory,common sense post.
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
Shady i have absolutely no problem with you or anyone having an opinion because afterall this is a forum where you post your thoughts but you, de niro and bluemanc just to name a few seem reluctant to give Mancini any credit and it doesn't make any sense. Can we agree that Mancini has come in and done a good job? The first few games weren't easy on the eye but he had to come in and get results and to get results he needed to sort us out defensively because the last 3 games of Hughes' reign we had conceded 3 goals in each of them. Since then we've had spells during games where we've not played well but is that any different to games under Hughes? We have also played some excellent football under Mancini especially in away games at Chelsea (Second half), Sunderland (Second half), Wolves, Fulham and Burnley despite us having an extremely one dimensional centre midfield and us missing Adebayor for most of those games

Mancini's came in and took over a side that had won just 2 of the last 11 leauge games and had no time to access his squad as he was straight into a run of games so it's fair to say he's done a good job all things considered. Defensively as a unit we have been much improved no matter who the personel in the back four is and we've now got a basis to build on

You make the point about if Mancini was a tactical genius then he'd find a formation and work with it. Well guess what he has done because under him we've been getting on average 2 points per game which is an excellent return and we're now in pole position for 4th whereas when he took over we were 6 points off Villa in 4th with a game in hand

I wasn't the greatest fan of Hughes towards the end of his time here but i come on after the Chelsea game and praised him for getting it spot on, why can't you and certain others give credit where it's due instead of making posts like 'it was only burnley'?
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If you don't mind me asking, why is it so important for you to have other people on Bluemoon post the same things as you? Wouldn't that make this place really boring. For every user who loves Mancini and thinks he's the best manager we've ever had, there will be a user who wants to be more circumspect. Those opinions are just as valid and people are entitled to air and share them. Many people have pointed out the points per game average under Mancini, so the facts are there for everyone to digest and interpret them however they choose.

The more I read threads like this (and there's been a few recently) the more I see a very unsettling trend where people like Shadygiz, myself, and De Niro are being singled out, and being asked to constantly explain why we don't "rate" Mancini, or why we're "having a pop" at him, when the truth is fair more prosaic. What it does is creates a "them" and "us" mentality which polarizes the board and ruins the Bluemoon experience...
 
BillyShears said:
Failsworth_Blue said:
Shady i have absolutely no problem with you or anyone having an opinion because afterall this is a forum where you post your thoughts but you, de niro and bluemanc just to name a few seem reluctant to give Mancini any credit and it doesn't make any sense. Can we agree that Mancini has come in and done a good job? The first few games weren't easy on the eye but he had to come in and get results and to get results he needed to sort us out defensively because the last 3 games of Hughes' reign we had conceded 3 goals in each of them. Since then we've had spells during games where we've not played well but is that any different to games under Hughes? We have also played some excellent football under Mancini especially in away games at Chelsea (Second half), Sunderland (Second half), Wolves, Fulham and Burnley despite us having an extremely one dimensional centre midfield and us missing Adebayor for most of those games

Mancini's came in and took over a side that had won just 2 of the last 11 leauge games and had no time to access his squad as he was straight into a run of games so it's fair to say he's done a good job all things considered. Defensively as a unit we have been much improved no matter who the personel in the back four is and we've now got a basis to build on

You make the point about if Mancini was a tactical genius then he'd find a formation and work with it. Well guess what he has done because under him we've been getting on average 2 points per game which is an excellent return and we're now in pole position for 4th whereas when he took over we were 6 points off Villa in 4th with a game in hand

I wasn't the greatest fan of Hughes towards the end of his time here but i come on after the Chelsea game and praised him for getting it spot on, why can't you and certain others give credit where it's due instead of making posts like 'it was only burnley'?
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If you don't mind me asking, why is it so important for you to have other people on Bluemoon post the same things as you? Wouldn't that make this place really boring. For every user who loves Mancini and thinks he's the best manager we've ever had, there will be a user who wants to be more circumspect. Those opinions are just as valid and people are entitled to air and share them. Many people have pointed out the points per game average under Mancini, so the facts are there for everyone to digest and interpret them however they choose.

The more I read threads like this (and there's been a few recently) the more I see a very unsettling trend where people like Shadygiz, myself, and De Niro are being singled out, and being asked to constantly explain why we don't "rate" Mancini, or why we're "having a pop" at him, when the truth is fair more prosaic. What it does is creates a "them" and "us" mentality which polarizes the board and ruins the Bluemoon experience...
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Great post Billy.
 
BillyShears said:
Failsworth_Blue said:
Shady i have absolutely no problem with you or anyone having an opinion because afterall this is a forum where you post your thoughts but you, de niro and bluemanc just to name a few seem reluctant to give Mancini any credit and it doesn't make any sense. Can we agree that Mancini has come in and done a good job? The first few games weren't easy on the eye but he had to come in and get results and to get results he needed to sort us out defensively because the last 3 games of Hughes' reign we had conceded 3 goals in each of them. Since then we've had spells during games where we've not played well but is that any different to games under Hughes? We have also played some excellent football under Mancini especially in away games at Chelsea (Second half), Sunderland (Second half), Wolves, Fulham and Burnley despite us having an extremely one dimensional centre midfield and us missing Adebayor for most of those games

Mancini's came in and took over a side that had won just 2 of the last 11 leauge games and had no time to access his squad as he was straight into a run of games so it's fair to say he's done a good job all things considered. Defensively as a unit we have been much improved no matter who the personel in the back four is and we've now got a basis to build on

You make the point about if Mancini was a tactical genius then he'd find a formation and work with it. Well guess what he has done because under him we've been getting on average 2 points per game which is an excellent return and we're now in pole position for 4th whereas when he took over we were 6 points off Villa in 4th with a game in hand

I wasn't the greatest fan of Hughes towards the end of his time here but i come on after the Chelsea game and praised him for getting it spot on, why can't you and certain others give credit where it's due instead of making posts like 'it was only burnley'?
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If you don't mind me asking, why is it so important for you to have other people on Bluemoon post the same things as you? Wouldn't that make this place really boring. For every user who loves Mancini and thinks he's the best manager we've ever had, there will be a user who wants to be more circumspect. Those opinions are just as valid and people are entitled to air and share them. Many people have pointed out the points per game average under Mancini, so the facts are there for everyone to digest and interpret them however they choose.

The more I read threads like this (and there's been a few recently) the more I see a very unsettling trend where people like Shadygiz, myself, and De Niro are being singled out, and being asked to constantly explain why we don't "rate" Mancini, or why we're "having a pop" at him, when the truth is fair more prosaic. What it does is creates a "them" and "us" mentality which polarizes the board and ruins the Bluemoon experience...
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Don't mind you asking at all Billy and i've never said once on here that i want someone to have the same opinion as me because we all have different opinions on near enough every subject. I don't expect Shady, De Niro to shout from the roof tops in favour of Mancini but they seem intent on giving him very little credit and in fact it was only last night bluemanc was saying Mancini has NOT improved us and i find it hard to believe someone can have that opinion and believe it

Mancini is a tactical genius is over the top of course and i expect people to come in here and disagree but comments like it's only burnley wear a bit thin if i'm being honest because it was results against 'only burnley' that cost Hughes his job. Footballs not at easy as turning up and winning, everyones got to have an input and i just don't understand certain posters reluctance to give Mancini any credit

May i add, if posters don't want to come on here and give him credit and don't post it's fine it's just when they come into a thread thats got a bit of praise for Mancini and counter if with pointless comments that i don't get
 
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