Tactical genius

[squirtyflower]

I hated Hughes

Que sera sera.


Why have you highlighted it?

I'm sure most on here can read.

Or is there something you want to say?

I "hated" Hughes 'cos he simply wasn't good enough.

I "love" Mancini, 'cos he's a top-notch manager.

I actually don't love or hate either of them... it's called poetic licence.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

 

[leewill31]

I think that again Mancini has proved himself to be a far better manager than Hughes with his choice of assistant

was it is choice?

did mancini choose him or was he placed there from them above?

 

[squirtyflower]

I think that again Mancini has proved himself to be a far better manager than Hughes with his choice of assistant

was it is choice?

did mancini choose him or was he placed there from them above?

he joined city a couple of months before roberto, but in a different capacity, although could have been moving the pawn into place ready for the check-mate

 

[bluemanc]

was it is choice?

did mancini choose him or was he placed there from them above?

he joined city a couple of months before roberto, but in a different capacity, although could have been moving the pawn into place ready for the check-mate

squirty,wasn't their a thread on here a while ago that said Kidd was told when he joined City that a far more important job was lined up for him in the future,i'm sure someone on here who knows Kidd was on that thread & confirmed it.

 

[squirtyflower]

he joined city a couple of months before roberto, but in a different capacity, although could have been moving the pawn into place ready for the check-mate

squirty,wasn't their a thread on here a while ago that said Kidd was told when he joined City that a far more important job was lined up for him in the future,i'm sure someone on here who knows Kidd was on that thread & confirmed it.

i don't remember reading that thread
i certainly remembering kidd joining the youth set up

the guy who was slagging kidd off made me laugh, fitted in nicely with the thread about some of the new fans knowing nothing about city before the last two years

 

[bluemanc]

squirty,wasn't their a thread on here a while ago that said Kidd was told when he joined City that a far more important job was lined up for him in the future,i'm sure someone on here who knows Kidd was on that thread & confirmed it.

i don't remember reading that thread
i certainly remembering kidd joining the youth set up

the guy who was slagging kidd off made me laugh, fitted in nicely with the thread about some of the new fans knowing nothing about city before the last two years

The manager bit is fair comment BUT as a coach i was very happy when Mancini was appointed that Kidd was his number 2,the guy needs a lot of help getting to know English football & i just hope the 2 of them really hit it off.

 

[Skashion]

the guy who was slagging kidd off made me laugh, fitted in nicely with the thread about some of the new fans knowing nothing about city before the last two years

I did facepalm at that moment. Perhaps the OP meant in the context of Brian Kidd's extraordinarily short and unsuccessful managing career rather than his playing career but otherwise, oh dear...

 

[squirtyflower]

the guy who was slagging kidd off made me laugh, fitted in nicely with the thread about some of the new fans knowing nothing about city before the last two years

I did facepalm at that moment. Perhaps the OP meant in the context of Brian Kidd's extraordinarily short and unsuccessful managing career rather than his playing career but otherwise, oh dear...

i honestly don't believe he has a clue who kiddo is
he was no good as a manager but has an impressive track record as a player and coach

 

[Skashion]

I did facepalm at that moment. Perhaps the OP meant in the context of Brian Kidd's extraordinarily short and unsuccessful managing career rather than his playing career but otherwise, oh dear...

i honestly don't believe he has a clue who kiddo is

he was no good as a manager but has an impressive track record as a player and coach

I hope not because that kind of comment belongs on a rags forum, like a certain 'Lou Macari or whoever he is' comment I once saw on 606.

I'd have trouble disagreeing with that.

 

[squirtyflower]

i honestly don't believe he has a clue who kiddo is

he was no good as a manager but has an impressive track record as a player and coach

I hope not because that kind of comment belongs on a rags forum, like a certain 'Lou Macari or whoever he is' comment I once saw on 606.

I'd have trouble disagreeing with that.

you do remember he played for us and scored quite a few goals

 

[Skashion]

I hope not because that kind of comment belongs on a rags forum, like a certain 'Lou Macari or whoever he is' comment I once saw on 606.

I'd have trouble disagreeing with that.

you do remember he played for us and scored quite a few goals

What do you mean? What did you say that in response to?

 

[squirtyflower]

you do remember he played for us and scored quite a few goals

What do you mean? What did you say that in response to?

tbh, not too sure
what was the comment about being on a rags forum?

 

[OJ Blue]

Surely Soulboy you know that this type of post will just goad de Niro and his ilk to respond with negative coments about a manager you obviously like.

Is it worth it?

do you think i enjoyed traipsing round the country to see abject dispays and team formations?
its called being honest, bob has took too long (for a genius) to sort this out in my eyes.
the rest of the prem must have been rubbing their hands to play us while bob found his brain.


"rubbing their hands"?

Really?

As in Wolves, Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley, Chelsea, Fulham, Portsmouth, Stoke and Wigan, yes they loved having their arses kicked.

if want me to ignore the bullshit posted on here you are going to be very dissapointed.

 

[Skashion]

What do you mean? What did you say that in response to?

tbh, not too sure
what was the comment about being on a rags forum?

That a comment coming from such ignorance i.e. not knowing who Brian Kidd is, belongs on a rag forum like one rag who said, 'Lou Macari or whoever he is', on 606.

I don't remember Brian Kidd playing for us and scoring lots of goals because I'm only 22 but I am well aware of it from reading my miniature library of books on City's history.

 

[BufordUSABlue]

I can't understand why people struggle so much with the concept that you can be critical of a manager and still rate that manager very highly. It's not so difficult to grasp is it?

You're right. It's all about perceptions and opinions.

I was a kid in 1968 when City won the league. City were just about the best team in England during that period, and one of the best in Europe. Just three years earlier City were in the second division.

Happy days? For most of us, yes.

But even back then there was a sizeable minority called the "Main Stand Moaners" who were legendary for being ultra-critical of the team and club... Book... "too old"... Young... "too soft"... Coleman... "troublemaker"...

So in over 40 years we've have retained that freedom of speech and critical nous that has held us in such esteem over the years.

If people want to criticise while we're the champions of England, that's their choice... and if people now want to criticise while we are sat in our best league position in 30 years, that too is their choice.

I just prefer enjoying the moment. I was one of City's ultra-critical fans over these past dozen years... but now I'm surprisingly happy with my lot, and so now enjoy days out at Burnley and such like.

Nothing is ever perfect, so there is always ample opportunity to criticise, if that is your bag. We're all different.

I love Mancini, others don't. I hated Hughes, others didn't.

Que sera sera.

We must be of similar age Soulboy and like you i remember the Main Stand moaners and really hated it when i ended up there rather than the Platt Lane (most games) or the Kippax (when i went without my uncle!)

And although i never really joined the ultra-negative club down the years, there have been plenty so the membership to their club was likely pretty full..... :-)

Always remember criticism of David White, Stevie Redmond and even (Gawd forbid!) a certain Paul Lake for being to fecking soft can you believe!! So plenty of people are always of the 1/2-empty brigade whereas i try to be a 1/2-full sort of guy.............supporting City through 'thin & thin' all these years, this sort of attitude has helped :-) !!

So, roll on those glory years and understand that the negatives will never leave, nor should they, as it takes all sorts! Its the 'johny-come-lately' types and the plastic's that i personally will be sad to see arrive but then again, bring them on......... as that will prove that we are have indeed arrived on the big-time stage!!

Looking forward - not back Blue...........exiled here in darkest Georgia!!

 

[Ricster]

do you think i enjoyed traipsing round the country to see abject dispays and team formations?
its called being honest, bob has took too long (for a genius) to sort this out in my eyes.
the rest of the prem must have been rubbing their hands to play us while bob found his brain.

if want me to ignore the bullshit posted on here you are going to be very dissapointed.

I'm a bit shocked, Bill, to be honest that you harbour such views about Mancini!

Let's be honest, there have been many factors leading to this point.

Firstly, it's not Mancini's squad. A fact that he has wringed his hands about, unlike someone else we all know, and has not bleated on about needing to buy players that will 'play for him'. He's got on with it. Which is even more a sleight on the last man.

Secondly, when a squad is not yours, it takes time to work out who is best where, even if it seems obvious to the brilliant managers on this board. Players may show things in training that is tried out on match day, position-wise. Bob has to trial and error to take this into account.

Thirdly, the comments about Tevez playing as a deep lying striker would be fair game... IF we'd have had the correct strikers to work off all season. Mancini has not had Ade nor Roque for a consistent amount of time for this to bear fruit.

So, please, all you Ankle Biters, please think before you post.

Quite possibly the best post i have ever read on Bluemoon

 

[Pita]

Do you actually know who is Mancini and what the guy represent for Italian football??? Who is Kidd?? What does he know about football, what did he win so far??? Please De Niro, have few more beers and enjoy this bank holiday

now you have shown yourself up
what do you know of manchester or of english football?

I am not disputing the fact the Kidd has been important as player for City and Manchester.
But you can't compare Kidd and Mancini careers as managers! Kidd has been always an assistant! Manchester city is improving because Roberto has found the key! Like he did at Inter and Fiorentina in the past! Without Kidd

 

[bluemanc]

now you have shown yourself up
what do you know of manchester or of english football?

I am not disputing the fact the Kidd has been important as player for City and Manchester.
But you can't compare Kidd and Mancini careers as managers! Kidd has been always an assistant! Manchester city is improving because Roberto has found the key! Like he did at Inter and Fiorentina in the past! Without Kidd

This could get messy.

 

[squirtyflower]

I am not disputing the fact the Kidd has been important as player for City and Manchester.
But you can't compare Kidd and Mancini careers as managers! Kidd has been always an assistant! Manchester city is improving because Roberto has found the key! Like he did at Inter and Fiorentina in the past! Without Kidd

This could get messy.

you know what
i can't be arsed
the kid's got the wrong end of the stick, doesn't know that kiddo has a european cup winners medal along with other medals and has been a successful assistant manager just outside of manchester

to top it all though it was all a piss take to start off with

 

[Pita]

This could get messy.

you know what
i can't be arsed
the kid's got the wrong end of the stick, doesn't know that kiddo has a european cup winners medal along with other medals and has been a successful assistant manager just outside of manchester

to top it all though it was all a piss take to start off with

I know my man, I know everything! Still an assistant! Excellent...but assist
I am sure he is helping Mancini, but stating that the improvment is due to Kidd is too much for me!