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Cue hackneyed phrases such as "European nights, under the lights...."

Death throes of the empire! (there, I've said it!)
 
Remember the Rags have more plastic fans than any other team, who have only ever followed (support is the wrong word) and the media including this abomination of a station needs to keep said lot of plastics happy, it keeps the money flowing
 
BOMBER7967 said:
bluelol said:
The cookie monster said:
Brazil hasnt shut up
Telling everyone moyes has the second best start as a rag manager behind busby
Better start than the pisscans

Having a go at the press for attacking moyes,and telling them to leave him alone

Come on lads have a bit of respect, it's not Moyes it's Davey, don't you know they are best mates!!!!!!

Just made a quick edit on Brazils Wiki page, media career section
<a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career</a>

Very good, Bomber.
 
Vienna_70 said:
BOMBER7967 said:
bluelol said:
Come on lads have a bit of respect, it's not Moyes it's Davey, don't you know they are best mates!!!!!!

Just made a quick edit on Brazils Wiki page, media career section
<a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career</a>

In the early 1970s, Brazil was subject to abuse at Celtic Boys Club, by Jim Torbett. When Torbett was charged and tried in 1996, Brazil was a witness for the prosecution. Torbett was found guilty on child abuse charges and sentenced to two years in prison.[9]

This is from his Wiki page^^^^^^^^^^is this true and does anyone no any more.?
 
big blueballs said:
Vienna_70 said:
BOMBER7967 said:
Just made a quick edit on Brazils Wiki page, media career section
<a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Brazil#Media_career</a>

In the early 1970s, Brazil was subject to abuse at Celtic Boys Club, by Jim Torbett. When Torbett was charged and tried in 1996, Brazil was a witness for the prosecution. Torbett was found guilty on child abuse charges and sentenced to two years in prison.[9]

This is from his Wiki page^^^^^^^^^^is this true and does anyone no any more.?
Yeah, sadly that bit is true. It was a famous case in Scotland and there is a whole mad debate about whether Jock Stein knew about it. Rangers lot tend to taunt Celtic's lot about it. Worked up there for a 12 months in 2011 and on the train back from a City midweek game there was 4 pissed up, obnoxious Rangers fans babbling on about it. One of them banging on in a really loud voice how he was going to join the British Olympic team and call his boat Big Jock, then he could say Big Jock Canoe (k-new) - absolute unfunny prick he was. The rest of his sidekicks all like Scottish versions of Richard Hammond giggling away like girls at him.

Anyway, I digress, yes sadly it is true this happened to Brazil.
 
strongbowholic said:
big blueballs said:

In the early 1970s, Brazil was subject to abuse at Celtic Boys Club, by Jim Torbett. When Torbett was charged and tried in 1996, Brazil was a witness for the prosecution. Torbett was found guilty on child abuse charges and sentenced to two years in prison.[9]

This is from his Wiki page^^^^^^^^^^is this true and does anyone no any more.?
Yeah, sadly that bit is true. It was a famous case in Scotland and there is a whole mad debate about whether Jock Stein knew about it. Rangers lot tend to taunt Celtic's lot about it. Worked up there for a 12 months in 2011 and on the train back from a City midweek game there was 4 pissed up, obnoxious Rangers fans babbling on about it. One of them banging on in a really loud voice how he was going to join the British Olympic team and call his boat Big Jock, then he could say Big Jock Canoe (k-new) - absolute unfunny prick he was. The rest of his sidekicks all like Scottish versions of Richard Hammond giggling away like girls at him.

Anyway, I digress, yes sadly it is true this happened to Brazil.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jdjWFUViQ[/youtube]
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
strongbowholic said:
big blueballs said:
In the early 1970s, Brazil was subject to abuse at Celtic Boys Club, by Jim Torbett. When Torbett was charged and tried in 1996, Brazil was a witness for the prosecution. Torbett was found guilty on child abuse charges and sentenced to two years in prison.[9]

This is from his Wiki page^^^^^^^^^^is this true and does anyone no any more.?
Yeah, sadly that bit is true. It was a famous case in Scotland and there is a whole mad debate about whether Jock Stein knew about it. Rangers lot tend to taunt Celtic's lot about it. Worked up there for a 12 months in 2011 and on the train back from a City midweek game there was 4 pissed up, obnoxious Rangers fans babbling on about it. One of them banging on in a really loud voice how he was going to join the British Olympic team and call his boat Big Jock, then he could say Big Jock Canoe (k-new) - absolute unfunny prick he was. The rest of his sidekicks all like Scottish versions of Richard Hammond giggling away like girls at him.

Anyway, I digress, yes sadly it is true this happened to Brazil.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jdjWFUViQ[/youtube]
They seem to think big Jock knew....
 
Before i go around to the flat decorating can anybody tell me if its safe to turn it back on or is it still a rag wankfest?
 
blue underpants said:
Before i go around to the flat decorating can anybody tell me if its safe to turn it back on or is it still a rag wankfest?
Funnily enough
Warnocks just said he can't believe how well the rags played the other night
With a reserve side.
 
The cookie monster said:
blue underpants said:
Before i go around to the flat decorating can anybody tell me if its safe to turn it back on or is it still a rag wankfest?
Funnily enough
Warnocks just said he can't believe how well the rags played the other night
With a reserve side.
Classic FM it is until Sunday then!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not the biggest fan of people editing Wikipedia pages for anything other than the purpose that facility was intended for.

Wikpedia is a wonderful thing and shouldn't be abused imo.

Come on GDM - some folks Wiki entries are so favourably orchestrated that they make halfwits like Ronnie Irani look like a cross between an English Don Bradman and Mother Teresa, rather than a mediocre batsmen that Lancashire fucked off because the whole team hated him.
Many people's Wikipedia accounts have all the accuracy of a Benjani free kick.
If some pompous underachiever wants to big themselves up by emphasising their wonderful charidee work and how they have cured cancer, fed the world's poor and made the lame walk, then they can't complain when someone amends their entry to give them a well-deserved reality check.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not the biggest fan of people editing Wikipedia pages for anything other than the purpose that facility was intended for.

Wikpedia is a wonderful thing and shouldn't be abused imo.

Come on GDM - some folks Wiki entries are so favourably orchestrated that they make halfwits like Ronnie Irani look like a cross between an English Don Bradman and Mother Teresa, rather than a mediocre batsmen that Lancashire fucked off because the whole team hated him.
Many people's Wikipedia accounts have all the accuracy of a Benjani free kick.
If some pompous underachiever wants to big themselves up by emphasising their wonderful charidee work and how they have cured cancer, fed the world's poor and made the lame walk, then they can't complain when someone amends their entry to give them a well-deserved reality check.
I accept that it is also abused by people on behalf of themselves, although anyone with a modicum of intelligence can usually see right through that.

I stand by what I say. I find Wikipedia to be a very useful tool. I accept it's far from 100% accurate - that's also true of any piece of writing that is subject to input from people with an opinion on the subject matter. People always emphasise the points which support their viewpoint, whist de-emphasising (or just ignoring) the aspects which don't.

I just think that anything that goes beyond that further undermines what is, and can be, a wonderful tool. The Alan Brazil page is a case in point. The Jim Torbett abuse is a story that is worth telling and as strongbowholic has said, a matter of debate between Celtic and Rangers fans as to whether Jock Stein "knew" about the abuse. Given the reverential way he is held by Celtic fans it is easy to see why it is such a sore point - it would be akin to someone accusing Joe Mercer of the same thing. It is clear from this thread that people now know about that, who didn't previously.

You might find this amusing , and not without reason, but if a united fan amended Pellegrini's page with something they found witty I wonder if you'd find it quite so funny ;-)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not the biggest fan of people editing Wikipedia pages for anything other than the purpose that facility was intended for.

Wikpedia is a wonderful thing and shouldn't be abused imo.

Come on GDM - some folks Wiki entries are so favourably orchestrated that they make halfwits like Ronnie Irani look like a cross between an English Don Bradman and Mother Teresa, rather than a mediocre batsmen that Lancashire fucked off because the whole team hated him.
Many people's Wikipedia accounts have all the accuracy of a Benjani free kick.
If some pompous underachiever wants to big themselves up by emphasising their wonderful charidee work and how they have cured cancer, fed the world's poor and made the lame walk, then they can't complain when someone amends their entry to give them a well-deserved reality check.
I accept that it is also abused by people on behalf of themselves, although anyone with a modicum of intelligence can usually see right through that.

I stand by what I say. I find Wikipedia to be a very useful tool. I accept it's far from 100% accurate - that's also true of any piece of writing that is subject to input from people with an opinion on the subject matter. People always emphasise the points which support their viewpoint, whist de-emphasising (or just ignoring) the aspects which don't.

I just think that anything that goes beyond that further undermines what is, and can be, a wonderful tool. The Alan Brazil page is a case in point. The Jim Torbett abuse is a story that is worth telling and as strongbowholic has said, a matter of debate between Celtic and Rangers fans as to whether Jock Stein "knew" about the abuse. Given the reverential way he is held by Celtic fans it is easy to see why it is such a sore point - it would be akin to someone accusing Joe Mercer of the same thing. It is clear from this thread that people now know about that, who didn't previously.

You might find this amusing , and not without reason, but if a united fan amended Pellegrini's page with something they found witty I wonder if you'd find it quite so funny ;-)

I take your point, and I would never approve of amendments that suggested someone was a paedophile or some other scurrilous allegation, but most of the 'alterations' done by folk on here, (such as with Saint Ronald of Dunmow), have been fairly good-humoured and innocuous.
At the end of the day, it was just a bit of fun - nobody died, Operation Yewtree didn't come knocking, and the world kept turning.
You know me - I don't believe anything is safe or sacrosanct when it comes to humour and ridicule.
And if some rag amended our manager's page, then providing it was witty I would laugh as much as anyone.
Life shouldn't be taken too seriously, and if someone genuinely gets upset by a Wikipedia alteration then I really think they need to have a quiet word with themselves.
 
I don't mind wiki pages being amended to a degree - I remember the rags battering Garry Cook's page "...and he invented the colour yellow." - as long as it is done with a modicum of style and humour that shows it is a wind up.

As for Brazil, there is a very good interview in the archives of the Daily Record (still available for free on line) about it. There's a bit in it where he describes seeing Torbett at a racecourse, and I must say it is quite upsetting reading how his anger and distress at what happened suddenly bubbles up to the surface.

I don't like Brazil's rag tendencies and his current pleading on behalf of Davey - after-all he is a miserable pleader (thanks to Frankie Howerd for that one!) - but I've always felt he is someone I'd enjoy going on an all-dayer with as (Torbett aside) I bet he's got a fair few tales to tell.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Come on GDM - some folks Wiki entries are so favourably orchestrated that they make halfwits like Ronnie Irani look like a cross between an English Don Bradman and Mother Teresa, rather than a mediocre batsmen that Lancashire fucked off because the whole team hated him.
Many people's Wikipedia accounts have all the accuracy of a Benjani free kick.
If some pompous underachiever wants to big themselves up by emphasising their wonderful charidee work and how they have cured cancer, fed the world's poor and made the lame walk, then they can't complain when someone amends their entry to give them a well-deserved reality check.
I accept that it is also abused by people on behalf of themselves, although anyone with a modicum of intelligence can usually see right through that.

I stand by what I say. I find Wikipedia to be a very useful tool. I accept it's far from 100% accurate - that's also true of any piece of writing that is subject to input from people with an opinion on the subject matter. People always emphasise the points which support their viewpoint, whist de-emphasising (or just ignoring) the aspects which don't.

I just think that anything that goes beyond that further undermines what is, and can be, a wonderful tool. The Alan Brazil page is a case in point. The Jim Torbett abuse is a story that is worth telling and as strongbowholic has said, a matter of debate between Celtic and Rangers fans as to whether Jock Stein "knew" about the abuse. Given the reverential way he is held by Celtic fans it is easy to see why it is such a sore point - it would be akin to someone accusing Joe Mercer of the same thing. It is clear from this thread that people now know about that, who didn't previously.

You might find this amusing , and not without reason, but if a united fan amended Pellegrini's page with something they found witty I wonder if you'd find it quite so funny ;-)

I take your point, and I would never approve of amendments that suggested someone was a paedophile or some other scurrilous allegation, but most of the 'alterations' done by folk on here, (such as with Saint Ronald of Dunmow), have been fairly good-humoured and innocuous.
At the end of the day, it was just a bit of fun - nobody died, Operation Yewtree didn't come knocking, and the world kept turning.
You know me - I don't believe anything is safe or sacrosanct when it comes to humour and ridicule.
And if some rag amended our manager's page, then providing it was witty I would laugh as much as anyone.
Life shouldn't be taken too seriously, and if someone genuinely gets upset by a Wikipedia alteration then I really think they need to have a quiet word with themselves.
I agree with this, and after all, if you want proper facts, you can always log on to Encyclopeado Britanniclap.
 
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