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As a neutral I have been surprised by the discussion about Kane vs Aguero. For me Aguero is a giant of the game and one of the finest strikers the Premier League has seen. Kane is very good obviously but I don't think he's the level of Aguero and the like.

Plus he has become a right snidey, cynical, whingeing git of a player. Aguero gets bonus points for trying to do Grealish on Sunday!

Anyway, this morning Dr Brazil had some sage advice this morning for anyone with a gambling problem:

"Just don't do it, don't have an account, GROW UP!!!!"
 
Haven’t listened to this station for well over 2 years, find it very disturbing the same people listen to the shite they talk,then post what there saying on here, if you don’t like it turn the fuckers off and put a cd on
 
As a neutral I have been surprised by the discussion about Kane vs Aguero. For me Aguero is a giant of the game and one of the finest strikers the Premier League has seen. Kane is very good obviously but I don't think he's the level of Aguero and the like.

Plus he has become a right snidey, cynical, whingeing git of a player. Aguero gets bonus points for trying to do Grealish on Sunday!

Anyway, this morning Dr Brazil had some sage advice this morning for anyone with a gambling problem:

"Just don't do it, don't have an account, GROW UP!!!!"

I don't have a problem with anyone who thinks Shearer is the best PL-era striker, there's certainly evidence to back that up! Henry was a magnificent player to watch, in a great team.

Kane will in due course take the hattrick record, and will probably score more than Aguero - he's only about 40 behind, and is a lot younger. Aguero's 75 goals (or so) in Spain are a footnote which offer a better career total for completists! I'm not sure whether the Argentinian league should count as well.

The PL stat is just another manufactured stat for stats sake.
 
For all Shearer’s bragging his goal scoring was largely to no avail.
In his entire career he won 1 league title.
Nothing else whatsoever.
 
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Went on their page and saw this, fuckin shit myself !

I knew I had seen him somewhere before
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For all Shearer’s bragging his goal scoring was largely to no avail.
In his entire career he won 1 league title.
Nothing else whatsoever.
Shearer and Kane are not like Aguero in that they are the main/only man who gets goals. Kun is part of a team goal machine whose scoring achievements, group and individual get hidden or 'modified'. The most recent example of Liverpool being the first team in Europe to hit the 50 goal mark despite City achieving it before Christmas.
 
As a neutral I have been surprised by the discussion about Kane vs Aguero. For me Aguero is a giant of the game and one of the finest strikers the Premier League has seen. Kane is very good obviously but I don't think he's the level of Aguero and the like.

Plus he has become a right snidey, cynical, whingeing git of a player. Aguero gets bonus points for trying to do Grealish on Sunday!

Anyway, this morning Dr Brazil had some sage advice this morning for anyone with a gambling problem:

"Just don't do it, don't have an account, GROW UP!!!!"

Closely followed by the guy from Coral, telling everyone that the website was down, so we must all get down to the shops to get your bets on.
 
The greatest first division scorer by a country mile was Greaves anyway.
Makes Shearers stats look crap.
Absolutely the best, as you say.. Statistics alone show Greaves way ahead of everyone else in the history of the English game. What they don't show is the fear he struck into every opposing team/set of fans in the build up to the game when due to play against him, for the best part of a decade. He was that good. He was almost unstoppable for at least 6-7 seasons from 1959-68 and took Chelsea and then Spurs, when he returned from Milan, both to different levels of attacking threat.

I know there are arguments regarding different eras of the game which show that things have 'improved' over time (including levels of fitness, technical skills and tactics) But Greaves was a sublime goalscorer and his spatial awareness alone would see him thrive in today's game (if he could be arsed to turn in for training, that is!) I'm glad I saw him live, several times, along with the likes of his team mate John ('The Ghost') White and others such as Alex ('The Golden Vision') Young at Everton, 'Slim' Jim Baxter (Sunderland and Forest), Bobby Moore (West Ham) and so on. The modern obsession, especially among media-johnnies, with 'all things Premiership' means that these true greats of the game have their achievements diminished/eroded by the obsession with whoever is the latest flavour of the month according to those very media types, who are only concerned with chasing click-bait..
 
Absolutely the best, as you say.. Statistics alone show Greaves way ahead of everyone else in the history of the English game. What they don't show is the fear he struck into every opposing team/set of fans in the build up to the game when due to play against him, for the best part of a decade. He was that good. He was almost unstoppable for at least 6-7 seasons from 1959-68 and took Chelsea and then Spurs, when he returned from Milan, both to different levels of attacking threat.

I know there are arguments regarding different eras of the game which show that things have 'improved' over time (including levels of fitness, technical skills and tactics) But Greaves was a sublime goalscorer and his spatial awareness alone would see him thrive in today's game (if he could be arsed to turn in for training, that is!) I'm glad I saw him live, several times, along with the likes of his team mate John ('The Ghost') White and others such as Alex ('The Golden Vision') Young at Everton, 'Slim' Jim Baxter (Sunderland and Forest), Bobby Moore (West Ham) and so on. The modern obsession, especially among media-johnnies, with 'all things Premiership' means that these true greats of the game have their achievements diminished/eroded by the obsession with whoever is the latest flavour of the month according to those very media types, who are only concerned with chasing click-bait..
Brian Clough was none too shabby either.
 
Dixie Dean wasn't bad either.

It's really pointless to compare them.

When Jimmy Greaves was playing, there was on average 4 goals a game. Now there's about 2.7. He was playing 42 game league seasons but only playing once a week.

With Dixie Dean, things like the offside rule don't even exist, the quality of the football is incomparable, and most defensive tactics haven't even been invented yet.

Imagine how many Sergio or Shearer would get if he only had to play once a week, and every game had nearly 2x as many goals because defending was so much worse?

The reason people use "Premier League" stats is because 1992 is a pretty good marker for the beginning of this modern era of football. The offside rule gets close to its modern iteration, the pass back rule comes in, the European Cup becomes the CL and the PL is created which creates this huge influx of money at the top. The Bosman rule changes up transfers across Europe as well and everyone (except germany) settles on 38 games a season.

It's a good bookend for modern football, and comparing across the era's is an exercise in futility IMO.
 
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Absolutely the best, as you say.. Statistics alone show Greaves way ahead of everyone else in the history of the English game. What they don't show is the fear he struck into every opposing team/set of fans in the build up to the game when due to play against him, for the best part of a decade. He was that good. He was almost unstoppable for at least 6-7 seasons from 1959-68 and took Chelsea and then Spurs, when he returned from Milan, both to different levels of attacking threat.

I know there are arguments regarding different eras of the game which show that things have 'improved' over time (including levels of fitness, technical skills and tactics) But Greaves was a sublime goalscorer and his spatial awareness alone would see him thrive in today's game (if he could be arsed to turn in for training, that is!) I'm glad I saw him live, several times, along with the likes of his team mate John ('The Ghost') White and others such as Alex ('The Golden Vision') Young at Everton, 'Slim' Jim Baxter (Sunderland and Forest), Bobby Moore (West Ham) and so on. The modern obsession, especially among media-johnnies, with 'all things Premiership' means that these true greats of the game have their achievements diminished/eroded by the obsession with whoever is the latest flavour of the month according to those very media types, who are only concerned with chasing click-bait..

I've learnt a lot about the old days from this thank you, the main thing being that they had crap nick-names back then ;-)
 
I've learnt a lot about the old days from this thank you, the main thing being that they had crap nick-names back then ;-)
Bit like them police reality shows none of them nicknames are at all imaginative.
 
As a neutral I have been surprised by the discussion about Kane vs Aguero. For me Aguero is a giant of the game and one of the finest strikers the Premier League has seen. Kane is very good obviously but I don't think he's the level of Aguero and the like.

Plus he has become a right snidey, cynical, whingeing git of a player. Aguero gets bonus points for trying to do Grealish on Sunday!

Anyway, this morning Dr Brazil had some sage advice this morning for anyone with a gambling problem:

"Just don't do it, don't have an account, GROW UP!!!!"

Kane is further behind Aguero in terms of goals scored now then he was when he made his debut.

He's nowhere near the conversation between Aguero/Shearer/Henry at the moment.
 

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