Prestwich_Blue said:What a load of rubbish. There's is no way you can set a target of winning the league. You can have it as an ambition but as we've seen this season, little things can completely screw things up.greasedupdeafguy said:top three?shipleyblue2 said:Target top three finish. champions league qualification and progression to the quarter final and beyond is the only necessity for continuing success. to attract and retain top players at senior and youth level. And to achieve ffp. anything else is a welcome bonus though personally a treble would be nice
If we don't win it next season you have wonder what the fuck is going on. specially as we're probably going to spend yet another 100 milllion.
- If Hart hadn't fucked up at Stamford Bridge;
- If Villa's first goal had been disallowed as it should have been and we'd gone on to win there;
- If Aguero plays that pass to Silva slightly better at Anfield or Silva gets a better touch on it and score;
- If Kompany clears that ball properly;
If these things had gone the way they should then we'd be strolling home to the title now but they didn't and you simply can't blame the manager for those.
We should be aiming to win it for sure but what if we're level on points with two other teams on the final day and lose it because a blatantly offside goal against us is wrongly given and we end up third? Are you going to sack a manager for that?panzer1311 said:We should be aiming to win the title EVERY year , never mind top 3 . if we dont win it next year , that will be three years since we won it ,
and that is simply not good enough !
and before anybody comes out with the "remember where we've come from" line , those days have gone . finishing 3rd with our finances and squad
is a failure , full stop
Prestwich_Blue said:I agree that our aim from the start should be to win the league. But to set a firm target that we have to win the league is pointless as it doesn't take into account what other teams do, injuries or other factors that we have no control over.KippaxCitizen said:That's all hindsight. The target from the start should be to win the title and if we don't do it we should be disappointed, even if we understand we won't win it every season.
At best I'd possibly expect a points target.
Stoned Rose said:The target for next season should be to win the league.
This season we had to many targets. We clearly stated at the outset that we wanted to win all 4. No one is going to be winning 4 trophies.
We've not won it this year simply because we dropped a completely unacceptable number of points v the lower placed sides. 17 points dropped from Cardiff, Sunderland, Villa, Stoke, Norwich and Southampton.
What happens is you drop these points which is poor in itself, but then you have to make these points up by beating the better sides. In effect you make a rod for your own back.
Had we won these 7 games (21 points) the losses to Liverpool and Chelsea wouldn't have mattered we'd still be top of the pile.
You have to win the 'bread and butter' games. Winning the 'glamour' games is just a bonus.
The sooner the club / players get their nuts round that the better.
Troubadour said:Prestwich_Blue said:What a load of rubbish. There's is no way you can set a target of winning the league. You can have it as an ambition but as we've seen this season, little things can completely screw things up.greasedupdeafguy said:top three?
If we don't win it next season you have wonder what the fuck is going on. specially as we're probably going to spend yet another 100 milllion.
- If Hart hadn't fucked up at Stamford Bridge;
- If Villa's first goal had been disallowed as it should have been and we'd gone on to win there;
- If Aguero plays that pass to Silva slightly better at Anfield or Silva gets a better touch on it and score;
- If Kompany clears that ball properly;
If these things had gone the way they should then we'd be strolling home to the title now but they didn't and you simply can't blame the manager for those.
All if's & but's PB.
You can blame the manager for the team selection & set up at Anfield - thats the real reason we got beat in that game and Not Vinny's fuck up.
You can also blame him for the carnival against Wigan.
He has take some of the responsibility. You can't keep blaming everyone and everything else all of the time.
Wow , thats a highly unlikely series of events , at the end of the day we HAVE to win trophies , every year , and the title should be a priority , not top fuckinPrestwich_Blue said:We should be aiming to win it for sure but what if we're level on points with two other teams on the final day and lose it because a blatantly offside goal against us is wrongly given and we end up third? Are you going to sack a manager for that?panzer1311 said:We should be aiming to win the title EVERY year , never mind top 3 . if we dont win it next year , that will be three years since we won it ,
and that is simply not good enough !
and before anybody comes out with the "remember where we've come from" line , those days have gone . finishing 3rd with our finances and squad
is a failure , full stop