Teenagers Having Kids

[hilts]

well for a start whether someone os married or not is irrelevant, in an ideal world anyone who has a child should financially support it, you cannot however stop giving benefits to a mother and its child, this is why some not all do it

the welfare state was set up as a safety net not a lifestyle choice however people will also find ways to use things to their own advantage

also the arguement others have made that because some teenage mothers look after their child financially means you cant discuss the high numbers that dont is laughable and typical

No it isn't.
If there's no benefits to be had an awful lot of legs will be closed and the unmarried birth rate will drop dramatically.

no moral society can punish the innocent(the child) because of the selfish(the mother) thats why they get away with it, are you suggesting a british government would allow kids to starve to stop mothers getting benefits? it wouldnt happen and they know it, as i said the welfare state was for those who cant not those who wont, the problem is you cant prove which is which and you certainly cant lets children live in abject poverty because their mother is a waste of time

 

[The Pink Panther]

No it isn't.
If there's no benefits to be had an awful lot of legs will be closed and the unmarried birth rate will drop dramatically.

no moral society can punish the innocent(the child) because of the selfish(the mother) thats why they get away with it, are you suggesting a british government would allow kids to starve to stop mothers getting benefits? it wouldnt happen and they know it, as i said the welfare state was for those who cant not those who wont, the problem is you cant prove which is which and you certainly cant lets children live in abject poverty because their mother is a waste of time

Let the blood related family look after the kid then
This country pays more in benefits than it gathers through income tax.

 

[foxy]

If a child is born to teenage parents with a stable home, job etc then what is the problem?

With regards to education parents can always go to college and uni later on in life or it may be their choice not to go back into education.

 

[hilts]

no moral society can punish the innocent(the child) because of the selfish(the mother) thats why they get away with it, are you suggesting a british government would allow kids to starve to stop mothers getting benefits? it wouldnt happen and they know it, as i said the welfare state was for those who cant not those who wont, the problem is you cant prove which is which and you certainly cant lets children live in abject poverty because their mother is a waste of time

Let the blood related family look after the kid then
This country pays more in benefits than it gathers through income tax.

listen i understand your frustration as much as anybody believe me but it cant be done, the only way to stop it that i can think of is to make people work for there benefits and not give it them in cash but as there are i believe
8 million or so people in this country not contributing to the economy i dont think any party would get voted in with such a policy not to mention the logistics on trying to make it work

life's not fair the majority pay for the ever increasing minority

 

[The Pink Panther]

Let the blood related family look after the kid then
This country pays more in benefits than it gathers through income tax.

listen i understand your frustration as much as anybody believe me but it cant be done, the only way to stop it that i can think of is to make people work for there benefits and not give it them in cash but as there are i believe
8 million or so people in this country not contributing to the economy i dont think any party would get voted in with such a policy not to mention the logistics on trying to make it work

life's not fair the majority pay for the ever increasing minority

I agree with you about working for benefits, but regarding being elected. I would think the majority of the people we're talking about don't vote anyway.

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

listen i understand your frustration as much as anybody believe me but it cant be done, the only way to stop it that i can think of is to make people work for there benefits and not give it them in cash but as there are i believe
8 million or so people in this country not contributing to the economy i dont think any party would get voted in with such a policy not to mention the logistics on trying to make it work

life's not fair the majority pay for the ever increasing minority

I agree with you about working for benefits, but regarding being elected. I would think the majority of the people we're talking about don't vote anyway.

Yes they do. They vote on X-Factor and important stuff like that.

 

[mancmackem]

life's not fair the majority pay for the ever increasing minority

Which will in 20-30 years most likely become the majority. Then when i come to claim my benefits after 40 years of work they will amount to a free bedpan, second hand walking stick and national health specs as the pot will be dry.

I hope Cameron sticks to this 'rewarding people that try to do the right thing' line (not in respect to this issue). I think society is more fucked that what we are being led to believe by carefully selected, or even manipulated statistics.

 

[hilts]

life's not fair the majority pay for the ever increasing minority

Which will in 20-30 years most likely become the majority. Then when i come to claim my benefits after 40 years of work they will amount to a free bedpan, second hand walking stick and national health specs as the pot will be dry.

I hope Cameron sticks to this 'rewarding people that try to do the right thing' line (not in respect to this issue). I think society is more fucked that what we are being led to believe by carefully selected, or even manipulated statistics.

the sad thing is there is literally fuck all you, me or david cameron can do about it, your choice is put up with it or just do what they do, unfortunately they count on plenty of people just putting up with

 

[mancmackem]

the sad thing is there is literally fuck all you, me or david cameron can do about it, your choice is put up with it or just do what they do, unfortunately they count on plenty of people just putting up with

You're right as that generally is the British way, placid and accepting. If this culture of spongers and benefit cheats was happening in a country with a knackered economy i think there would be a different story...

 

[hilts]

the sad thing is there is literally fuck all you, me or david cameron can do about it, your choice is put up with it or just do what they do, unfortunately they count on plenty of people just putting up with

You're right as that generally is the British way, placid and accepting. If this culture of spongers and benefit cheats was happening in a country with a knackered economy i think there would be a different story...

then you have the social elite who treat the non working class as a pet project so they dont feel bad about their wealth