Terrorist attack on asylum centre

[bluethrunthru]

539 migrants crossed the channel in 2018.

1,900 in 2019.

So far this year that number is at 39,430.

Here is a huge clue - Jan 2020 we left the Dublin 3 agreement - look it up - you will see why

 

[Octavian]

Here is a huge clue - Jan 2020 we left the Dublin 3 agreement - look it up - you will see why

I know what that is but do you think that’s why more are choosing to come here?

If that was so they’d surely not want to now the Rwanda policy was introduced?

 

[Ric]

Have you read any of the thread?

I’ve literally said that in the last few pages.

Sorry, hadn’t read the thread in its entirety when I replied to that post.

 

[Octavian]

Sorry, hadn’t read the thread in its entirety when I replied to that post.

Fair enough

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Stop paying them then I say and invest more in the border ourselves

Ok, but then we wouldn’t have a centre in Calais.

Perhaps we need to build a wall…

 

[Grassland Blue]

Many of the People crossing the Channel know damn well they have no reasonable claim to Asylum and have no intention of going through Legal Channels. What is needed is a speedy system for removing such people from the UK (given they are coming anyway) to disincentivise such trips but how do you achieve this in practice?

We have some uninhabited islands off the British coast. Perhaps one of those could be used as a processing centre. Just throw up a few bothies for the refugees/asylum seekers, and let's see what they make of the wet and wild condirions.
If they are prepared to endure those conditions for a while, without complaint, then they must be genuine refugees.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Stop giving the French money and introduce proper infrastructure in Calais for people to be processed.

Make it easier for people to apply for asylum at the UK border.

Treat everyone who ignores that and crosses outside of process as someone to be deported and do such thing.

Sorry but Calais is in France - France as a sovereign nation has control over its borders - we cannot introduce any infrastructure there.

The answer is simple

1/ like any other country allow access to the UK so they can make an asylum claim
2/ like a grown up country fund and staff the asylum claims so that people are not in overcrowded places intended for a 48 hrs stay maximum for a month or more instead
3/ when you show yourself to be a grown up responsible country use that as a starting point to negotiate repatriation agreements for the few that seem to fail in their asylum claim

Its not really that hard - but as long as we are governed by an amateurish group of clownish truth twisters who's sole way of hanging on to power is to stoke up a racists xenophobic or scared base that they are very good at doing the current rinse and repeat will continue because it suits their methodology.

 

[bluethrunthru]

We have some uninhabited islands off the British coast. Perhaps one of those could be used as a processing centre. Just throw up a few bothies for the refugees/asylum seekers, and let's see what they make of the wet and wild condirions.
If they are prepared to endure those conditions for a while, without complaint, then they must be genuine refugees.

ever stopped to think why they are uninhabited?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

We have some uninhabited islands off the British coast. Perhaps one of those could be used as a processing centre. Just throw up a few bothies for the refugees/asylum seekers, and let's see what they make of the wet and wild condirions.
If they are prepared to endure those conditions for a while, without complaint, then they must be genuine refugees.

Televise it and call it I’m an asylum seeker, let me in here?

Perhaps they need to do challenges so they can feed themselves too?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I know what that is but do you think that’s why more are choosing to come here?

If that was so they’d surely not want to now the Rwanda policy was introduced?

The people coming here are better informed than the race hating rabble throwing petrol bombs who just get their news from the Mail. As of Jan 2020 they were well aware once they get here we cannot send them back to France ( our choice that was ) - they also know that Rwanda expect to take 200 a year for their £150m................100k coming here and 200 deported - they are odds they will take.

You see you fall for the BIG IDEA of Rwanda because you are told its a bold move by the Govt and the press. People outside - including asylum seekers can see what a hollow threat that is - thats why the Govt moves on a ramps up the rhetoric every day - you cannot be allowed to absorb and process the truth or you may ask awkward questions.

This issue was raised regularly since the referendum - it was always denied it was always part of Project Fear - its odd how every warning raised has turned out to be a truth eh? Its almost like some people could understand the facts.