Terry retires from international football {merged}

[mugoz]

The 4 games Terry will miss are Norwich(h), Tottenham (a), Manchester United (h), Manchester United in the Cup.

Not necessarily.

The ban doesn't start until 14 days after Terry receives the official reasons for the verdict. The only reason it can start earlier is if he chooses to accept the FA charge, in that instance the ban starts as soon as he says he's not going to appeal.

-- Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:31 pm --

It's worth noting here that John Terry has received exactly the same length of ban (4 games) as Vincent Kompany received for cleanly tackling Nani in the derby last season. So, just to reiterate here, the FA believe racism is punishable to exactly the same level as winning a football in a tackle.

Well said

 

[the blue panther]

Whilst I'm all for the odious John Terry being banned for as long as possible, you have to remember that he has been acquitted in the Magistrates' Court, therefore, it's highly questionable whether the FA should have proceeded at all.

The difference between the Suarez case and Terry would appear to be that Suarez tried his best to deny the offence, and his defence was not accepted; Terry doesn't deny using the words but said that he used them to deny actually calling Anton Ferdi a fuckin' black ****. In so doing, he admitted using those words on the pitch, and thereby he is guilty of the offence. But, if the FA basically accepted that he wasn't using the words in the insulting way for which he was originally charged, they will have accepted that there was some mitigation so as to distinguish this case from the Suarez case.

Shorter ban, bigger fine than Suarez but, as we all know, money is no object.

To me, they've fudged the issue; if the mitigation was strong, he shouldn't have been charged in the first place - especially after going through the full legal process in the Magistrates' Court. If the mitigation wasn't accepted, he should have got the same ban as Suarez, at least.

I suspect he will just leave well alone now and serve the ban.

 

[alexnash13]

The 4 games Terry will miss are Norwich(h), Tottenham (a), Manchester United (h), Manchester United in the Cup.

Not necessarily.

The ban doesn't start until 14 days after Terry receives the official reasons for the verdict. The only reason it can start earlier is if he chooses to accept the FA charge, in that instance the ban starts as soon as he says he's not going to appeal.

-- Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:31 pm --

It's worth noting here that John Terry has received exactly the same length of ban (4 games) as Vincent Kompany received for cleanly tackling Nani in the derby last season. So, just to reiterate here, the FA believe racism is punishable to exactly the same level as winning a football in a tackle.

Well said

And also, they seem to think calling someone a "N*****" from a country where Racism is normal deserves a 10 game ban, where as calling someone a "Black C***" from a country where racism isn't accepted is a 4 game ban. Shocking decision.

 

[SWP's back]

The FA should never have got involved after he was acquitted.

Very odd decision from them.

 

[Matty]

This all comes back to the "burden of proof" issue, which some seem to be either ignoring or forgetting.

A court of law has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In the Terry case they were unable to do this, there was reasonable doubt over what was said and how it was said, so the court had to find him not guilt of the offence.

The FA were not conducting a criminal case though, they were conducting an employment tribunal, and as such "beyond a reasonable doubt" is not relevant. All an employment tribunal needs to do is listen to the evidence, weigh up both sides, and decide what is "most likely" to have happened. The decision here seems to be that the FA's panel have decided, on balance, that is is more likely Terry racially abused Ferdinand than it is he was actually denying he had done this.

The verdict the courts came to wasn't really revelant to the FA's own case.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

The FA should never have got involved after he was acquitted.

Very odd decision from them.

But the right decision..

 

[MCFC1993]

4 games though, they should of just left it after the police had dealt with it, because that suspension is embarrassing.

 

[SWP's back]

The FA should never have got involved after he was acquitted.

Very odd decision from them.

But the right decision..

No, I don't think so.

 

[Skashion]

No, I don't think so.

I agree, it's a terrible decision. This means Lescott will be drafted in and more chance of him being injured.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

The FA should never have got involved after he was acquitted.

Very odd decision from them.

But the right decision..

No, I don't think so.

As matty has said thats the way it has been dealt with..
Just listening to durham & quinn,its their debate for the hour.
Chelsea banned one of their own fans for life for saying pretty much the same thing to drogba....Wonder if they will do the same thing and sack terry..

I reckon he will lose the captains armband.