Tevez suspended - OS

SWP's back said:
mcfcliam said:
SWP's back said:
Not like you to jump on a band wagon.

After the poster apologised for any offence 'n all.

My mum works with disabled kids so it's not jumping on a bandwagon at all.

Why don't you fuck off stalking me whilst giving out sly digs you sad, sad man.
Who was posting in this thread eh?

Come say hi at B'burn and cheer me up if I'm that sad.

I'd rather meet Gary Neville.
 
City players speak.

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Nigel De Jong has urged Manchester City to decide Carlos Tevez's fate before the striker's disloyalty and crass self-indulgence undermines their entire season.

City's players are fed up with Tevez's petulant antics - the latest of which saw the striker refuse to come off the bench as a sub in Tuesday's 2-0 Champions League defeat to Bayern Munich.

A three-player delegation went to City boss Roberto Mancini last season, demanding that Tevez be stripped of the captaincy for continually asking to leave and frequently bad-mouthing those at the club.

There is now anger on the same scale among the City squad over Tevez's refusal to play in Munich, with many players finally losing patience with their controversial team-mate.

Dutch midfielder De Jong, a straight-talking character, said the situation involving Tevez must be resolved before it turns into another saga that detracts from what the team is trying to achieve.

"Yes, you always have to address them quickly. You can't continue talking about the same things for weeks and weeks," said De Jong.

"Everyone knows what's happening at Manchester City, because it's Manchester City - especially when things like this happen - but we've just got to keep ourselves focused, keep the concentration in the group as well and with the staff.

"Everyone is proud of this Manchester City. I didn't see the whole situation [involving Tevez in Munich] and can't have a good judgement about it.

"It is what it is at the moment. There are a lot of emotions going on, there is a lot of pressure on the players and staff and these things sometimes happen.

"There are always some bust-ups and things like that in dressing-rooms. That happens at big teams. Every big team has it.

"It's not only us. Barcelona. Real Madrid. You have things happening behind the scenes. We just have to see what happens in the coming days."

Tevez's close friend and compatriot Pablo Zabaleta, who sat next to him on the bench in Munich and witnessed first-hand the striker's extraordinary conduct, painted a picture of a troubled soul.

Zabaleta contradicated Tevez's statement, released on Wednesday morning, in which the striker insisted he had not refused to play and that there had merely been a misunderstanding between himself and Mancini.

"Carlos just didn't want to play," said Zabaleta, who, despite his friendship with Tevez, said players had a duty to respect Mancini's decisions as their manager, even if they did not agree with them.


"All players have different characters and sometimes the decision is going to be very difficult for everybody because we have too many players and we need to accept that sometimes we are on the bench.

"I know Carlos. Everybody always wants to play, and maybe it's a difficult moment for him, but we need to be calm sometimes.

"We need to try to help Carlos. He has been a really important player for us in the last two years - maybe this season he has had more games on the bench.

"Sometimes that is difficult, and more so for strikers, who need to play, need to score, need to feel confidence.

"I was on the bench, but sometimes I was talking to somebody or watching the game, and you don't know everything. I don't know what happened."

The third member of City's Argentine contingent, striker Sergio Aguero, claimed not to know what had prompted Tevez's remarkable act of defiance but hinted, like Zabaleta, at a player in turmoil.

"Carlos is a great player, but obviously I am not inside his mind, to know his thoughts and opinions," said Aguero. "I am not in his head, but I think everything is OK.

"Carlos is not playing so much, but there are also other players who are not playing so often. They [Mancini and Tevez] are two grown men and maybe they will sort it out.

"That [refusing to play] is a decision each player makes. It was not to do with me - I was on the pitch playing.

"The decision is up to each player. It's Roberto who is in charge, he puts through his opinions and ideas and makes his decisions, and we just have to go with it."
 
it gets better now this from the mirror.



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Furious Roberto Mancini swore at Carlos Tevez after the Manchester City striker refused to play against Bayern Munich.

Mancini is alleged to have told Tevez he could “f***off back to Argentina” after the former City skipper defied his boss by refusing to come off the bench in Tuesday's Champions League group game.

City boss Mancini is also understood to have directed a similar volley of abuse at Edin Dzeko, telling him to “f*** off back to Bosnia,” after he reacted angrily to being subbed in the 2-0 defeat.

Tevez was suspended on Wednesday night for two weeks - the maximum allowed - and banished from the training ground while the club conducts an investigation into why he refused to play.



Mancini said Tevez would never play for City again after his public show of defiance and disloyalty, and the club's owners are backing their boss, having finally lost patience with their capricious striker.

Billionaire owner Sheikh Mansour and his backroom team have taken an extremely dim view of Tevez’s latest act of petulance, with chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak understood to have backed Mancini’s hardline stance.

Tevez’s antics over the past year - twice demanding a move from City, as well as bad-mouthing the club and Manchester itself - have exasperated the club’s hierarchy, and their patience finally snapped after Tuesday’s extraordinary episode in Munich.

For his part, Tevez is said to feel “victimised” by Mancini, having been stripped of the captaincy and losing his first-team place to fellow Argentine Sergio Aguero after causing so much turmoil at the club last summer with his repeated demands to leave.

Although terminating the player’s contract would see City jettison a top-class forward worth £40m-50m on the transfer market, there is no mood at the club to indulge such a disruptive influence any longer.

Tevez has released a statement apologising for the incident, the intention of which is clearly damage-limitation.

It read: "There was some confusion on the bench and I believe my position may have been misunderstood. I would like to apologise to all Manchester City fans, with whom I have always had a strong relationship, for any misunderstanding that occurred in Munich.

"They understand that when I am on the pitch I have always given my best for the club. In Munich on Tuesday, I had warmed up and was ready to play. This is not the right time to get into specific details as to why this did not happen.

“But I wish to state that I never refused to play. Going forward, I am ready to play when required and to fulfil my obligations."

Despite Tevez's statement, there is a feeling at City that the point of no return has finally been reached with the 27-year-old.

A sale in January's transfer window, with Tevez training in isolation or with the club’s reserves until then, is the likeliest scenario, as City are happy to cut their losses and take a major hit on a player who has now become more of a liability than an asset.

Brazilian side Corinthians remain keen on Tevez, despite failing with an audacious bid of £35m for the Argentina international last summer.

But with City now desperate to offload him, the forward could be available for a relatively modest fee of around £20m.


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mcfcliam said:
SWP's back said:
mcfcliam said:
My mum works with disabled kids so it's not jumping on a bandwagon at all.

Why don't you fuck off stalking me whilst giving out sly digs you sad, sad man.
Who was posting in this thread eh?

Come say hi at B'burn and cheer me up if I'm that sad.

I'd rather meet Gary Neville.
I'm not surprised. Also my digs aren't sly. I can't stand you and am very open about it.
 
edgecroft said:
City players speak.

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Nigel De Jong has urged Manchester City to decide Carlos Tevez's fate before the striker's disloyalty and crass self-indulgence undermines their entire season.

City's players are fed up with Tevez's petulant antics - the latest of which saw the striker refuse to come off the bench as a sub in Tuesday's 2-0 Champions League defeat to Bayern Munich.

A three-player delegation went to City boss Roberto Mancini last season, demanding that Tevez be stripped of the captaincy for continually asking to leave and frequently bad-mouthing those at the club.

There is now anger on the same scale among the City squad over Tevez's refusal to play in Munich, with many players finally losing patience with their controversial team-mate.

Dutch midfielder De Jong, a straight-talking character, said the situation involving Tevez must be resolved before it turns into another saga that detracts from what the team is trying to achieve.

"Yes, you always have to address them quickly. You can't continue talking about the same things for weeks and weeks," said De Jong.

"Everyone knows what's happening at Manchester City, because it's Manchester City - especially when things like this happen - but we've just got to keep ourselves focused, keep the concentration in the group as well and with the staff.

"Everyone is proud of this Manchester City. I didn't see the whole situation [involving Tevez in Munich] and can't have a good judgement about it.

"It is what it is at the moment. There are a lot of emotions going on, there is a lot of pressure on the players and staff and these things sometimes happen.

"There are always some bust-ups and things like that in dressing-rooms. That happens at big teams. Every big team has it.

"It's not only us. Barcelona. Real Madrid. You have things happening behind the scenes. We just have to see what happens in the coming days."

Tevez's close friend and compatriot Pablo Zabaleta, who sat next to him on the bench in Munich and witnessed first-hand the striker's extraordinary conduct, painted a picture of a troubled soul.

Zabaleta contradicated Tevez's statement, released on Wednesday morning, in which the striker insisted he had not refused to play and that there had merely been a misunderstanding between himself and Mancini.

"Carlos just didn't want to play," said Zabaleta, who, despite his friendship with Tevez, said players had a duty to respect Mancini's decisions as their manager, even if they did not agree with them.


"All players have different characters and sometimes the decision is going to be very difficult for everybody because we have too many players and we need to accept that sometimes we are on the bench.

"I know Carlos. Everybody always wants to play, and maybe it's a difficult moment for him, but we need to be calm sometimes.

"We need to try to help Carlos. He has been a really important player for us in the last two years - maybe this season he has had more games on the bench.

"Sometimes that is difficult, and more so for strikers, who need to play, need to score, need to feel confidence.

"I was on the bench, but sometimes I was talking to somebody or watching the game, and you don't know everything. I don't know what happened."

The third member of City's Argentine contingent, striker Sergio Aguero, claimed not to know what had prompted Tevez's remarkable act of defiance but hinted, like Zabaleta, at a player in turmoil.

"Carlos is a great player, but obviously I am not inside his mind, to know his thoughts and opinions," said Aguero. "I am not in his head, but I think everything is OK.

"Carlos is not playing so much, but there are also other players who are not playing so often. They [Mancini and Tevez] are two grown men and maybe they will sort it out.

"That [refusing to play] is a decision each player makes. It was not to do with me - I was on the pitch playing.

"The decision is up to each player. It's Roberto who is in charge, he puts through his opinions and ideas and makes his decisions, and we just have to go with it."
Haven't read this anywhere else, are the quotes real? No reason to disbelieve it but knowing Mirrorfootball's track record...
 
Telegraph story is interesting:

Carlos Tevez faces the sack as Manchester City read riot act following Argentine's refusal to play against Bayern
Carlos Tévez has been suspended until further notice and is facing the possibility of the ultimate sanction of dismissal for gross misconduct by Manchester City after refusing to play as a second-half substitute in Tuesday’s Champions League defeat against Bayern Munich.
By Mark Ogden and Jason Burt
11:07PM BST 28 Sep 2011


Following a day of talks involving manager Roberto Mancini, senior figures from the club’s hierarchy and City’s legal advisers, Tévez is expected to be told to stay away from the Carrington training ground on Thursday morning as an internal investigation is launched into the events at the Allianz Arena that resulted in Mancini claiming that the Argentine forward was “finished” and would “never” play for the club again.

City confirmed the punishment in a statement on Wednesday night. “The player’s suspension is pending a full review into his alleged conduct during Tuesday evening’s 2-0 defeat to Bayern Munich,” the statement said. “The player will not be considered for selection or take part in training whilst the review is under way.”

A fine of two weeks’ wages, the maximum allowed under Football Association regulations, is likely to cost the striker a basic £400,000.

Tévez’s attempts to forget his troubles and play golf backfired on Wednesday when he was turned away from Tytherington Golf Club in Cheshire with his wife because he had not booked a tee-off time and the course was full. He got in his Mercedes and headed back to his mansion in Alderley Edge.

City are determined to investigate Tuesday’s events, with players and coaching staff present on the substitutes’ bench at the time of the incident likely to be asked to provide observations, with television interviews also set to be reviewed.

Despite the prospect of writing off a playing asset valued at £50 million during the summer transfer window, it is understood that the club’s Abu Dhabi power brokers have not discounted the prospect of sacking Tévez for his actions in Munich.

Chelsea’s decision to sack the Romanian forward Adrian Mutu in October 2004 for testing positive for cocaine offers City a precedent. Mutu was then ordered to pay £14.6 million in compensation to Chelsea in July, 2009 for breach of contract, although there is no suggestion that Tévez’s refusal to play for City is comparable to Mutu testing positive for cocaine.

Sacking Tévez, described as a possibility by senior Premier League sources, is regarded as an option of last resort, but the 27 year-old’s behaviour has angered players, management and administrators, with a majority of fans voicing their fury at the forward and insisting that he should never play for the club again.

After Tévez admitted in an interview with Sky Sports after the game against Bayern that “I didn’t feel I was right to play, so I didn’t”, his representatives issued a statement on the player’s behalf on Wednesday morning in which he said he “never refused to play”.

Suggestions that Mancini told Tévez to “---- off to Argentina”, and also urged Edin Dzeko to “---- off back to Bosnia”, during the touchline row were put to City, who declined to respond.

But it has emerged that Tévez was angered by Mancini telling him to warm up on the touchline after being overlooked in favour of Nigel de Jong as a 55th-minute replacement for Dzeko, who left the field shaking his head and threw his boots to the floor.

Mancini then clashed with Pablo Zabaleta, sat alongside Tévez in the dugout, after the defender was unable to warm up due to a delay in tying his boot laces.

Having been made aware of hostile threads on fans forums calling for supporters to vent their anger at Tévez on his return to Manchester Airport in the early hours of Wednesday, City increased security at the terminal.

With universal criticism of Tévez greeting his conduct, the club are mindful of the difficulty they would face in assimilating the player back into the squad and it is understood that there is little appetite to do so.

Mancini has made it clear to chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak that he does not want the player at the club’s training ground, but the former Inter Milan coach is understood to be opposed to sacking Tévez.

His insistence that Tévez will not play for the club again will diminish his value when the transfer window reopens in January, but selling him at a reduced fee is a more appealing option than allowing him to become a free agent by cancelling his contract.

City have been told they would have the support of Fifa should they wish to terminate Tévez’s contract, with Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce claiming that the player’s behaviour was “despicable”.

Boyce said: “If City write to Fifa and state the exact circumstances, then I believe Fifa should have the power, as they do for drugs-related and other cases, to ban the player from taking an active part in football.”
 
vonksbignose said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Oh how I hope he finds out the kids aren't really his.

I've been in his exec box at the stadium & there's pics of them all over the walls. Believe me, the ugly little fuckers are his! And having seen them, it explains why he chose to go on holiday with his bit of skirt rather than go home to visit them! I'd want the full benefit of an ocean between me & them if they were mine too!!!

LET'S KEEP KIDS OUT OF THIS
 
Pam said:
pride in battle said:
FIFA want Tevez banned so he cannot play for another club, it's on sky online now.

I heard that but I don't know what they're on about.

This a statement by Jim Boyce who is represents Irish football and is a FIFA Vice President. As far as I can tell he is speaking in a personal capacity and the way he has phrased his statement makes me wonder whether we should infer that FIFA don't have the power to ban him as the rules stand.
 
SWP's back said:
mcfcliam said:
SWP's back said:
Who was posting in this thread eh?

Come say hi at B'burn and cheer me up if I'm that sad.

I'd rather meet Gary Neville.
I'm not surprised. Also my digs aren't sly. I can't stand you and am very open about it.

That's good for you mate and I won't lose sleep over it.

I aint on here to please you or make friends, I'm here to post my opinions and a lot of shit.

Sorry you're not a fan.
 

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