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Tevez to return (Merged)
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i8rags
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Fact, on that note I leave this forum content but still very confused.Ducado said:You could look at it another way, Milan and Tevez and Kia decided to try and take the piss out of one of the richest men in the world, they lost the bet
Ducado said:I think a bit of pragmatism is required on all sides of the debate
It does look to me as there has been some professional arbitration going on here, the one thing I have been impressed with was the clubs unwillingness to budge when it was clear that Milan had been buttering him up, perhaps all this going AWOL was an attempt to force the clubs hand, but it has become clear that the club knew what was afoot called Milan's bluff and here we are, a player that needs to get his face back on the world stage in order to generate a big money move, and it will be on our terms.
With this in mind I beleive he will play well just to prove he is still worth the money
This to me suggests good leadership from above - the opposite of what has been suggested by some. We stayed strong, didn't give in to what Kia/Tevez wanted and played the game on OUR terms. We could have been weak and sold him to Milan for £10m just to get rid.
It's too easy to say we "should have sold him" in the summer/January, but it was never going to be that easy. There was willingness to sell, but not the same willingness from elsewhere to buy. Carlos and Kia realise this, which is why the politics continue and will continue until the summer. We just have to hope this isn't detrimental to what we are trying to achieve.
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Mancini was asked about the situation on Wednesday night as he gave a press conference in Portugal to preview Thursday's Europa League tie at Porto.
The Italian said: "I don't want to answer your question because the game is more important than this.
"But I answer only this question and then after, no more, because we have this game. It is an important game against a top club like Porto.
"I totally disagree with Carlos, what he said, because I have never treated him badly. Maybe it is the opposite, I treated him too well, always."
Mancini then broke away slightly as he continued his answer, but made clear he does not want the continuing Tevez saga to affect his team's push for the Barclays Premier League title.
He said: "And I never said to him, like...finished. This is the last question I answer in the next three months. I don't want to talk anymore."
Well said Mancini!
Do one tevez!!!!
The Italian said: "I don't want to answer your question because the game is more important than this.
"But I answer only this question and then after, no more, because we have this game. It is an important game against a top club like Porto.
"I totally disagree with Carlos, what he said, because I have never treated him badly. Maybe it is the opposite, I treated him too well, always."
Mancini then broke away slightly as he continued his answer, but made clear he does not want the continuing Tevez saga to affect his team's push for the Barclays Premier League title.
He said: "And I never said to him, like...finished. This is the last question I answer in the next three months. I don't want to talk anymore."
Well said Mancini!
Do one tevez!!!!
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Anyone who thinks all decisions on this have been made at board level without proactive input from above are guilty of being extremely naive at the very least.Ducado said:You could look at it another way, Milan and Tevez and Kia decided to try and take the piss out of one of the richest men in the world, they lost the bet
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Tevez to give a selection headache for Manchester City says Vieira
Kevin Affleck
Feb 16, 2012
ABU DHABI // Patrick Vieira says Roberto Mancini will face a selection dilemma should the Manchester City manager decide to integrate Carlos Tevez back into the first-team squad.
The Argentine reported back to the club on Tuesday night after exiling himself in South America for three months and was not part of the squad who trained ahead of Thursday night's Europa League game at Porto.
The striker, who failed to land his desired move to AC Milan last month, will undergo a series of medical and fitness assessments and is likely to work with the conditioning team at the club's Carrington training ground on a specific fitness programme to get him into the required shape to be considered for a place in the City attack, which already boasts Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko and Mario Balotelli.
"The manager will have a tough choice choosing a starting XI," Vieira, City's football development executive, said on Wednesday. "When you see what Carlos did last season, it is clear what he can do for the team but it is not my decision. That is down to Roberto and other people at the club so if Carlos comes back and can give something to the football club then I think everyone will be happy."
Vieira said he has a "close relationship" with the players but declined to comment on the effect Tevez, who has sought to engineer a move away from the club several times, would have on the dressing room. He was, however, much more comfortable in extolling the managerial virtues of Mancini, the Italian who has been at loggerheads with the Argentine.
"We have quite a good relationship," said Vieira. "I worked with him at Inter and he's a winner. He came to City to win and he has the desire to do well. He was really successful at Inter and he wants to be really successful at City and you can't blame a manager who wants to be successful."
Mancini imported Vieira from Inter Milan two years ago, believing his experience of winning 11 trophies in England, including three Premier League titles, would rub off on his expensive but inexperienced squad.
Vieira signed off his career by adding a 12th title to his CV by winning the FA Cup with City last summer and has since moved upstairs into an executive role.
He says he is "enjoying the role" and has not felt the need to pass on his title-winning experience to a City side chasing their first English league title in 40 years.
"They players don't need advice [from me] as the players are really focused," Vieira said. "They are so committed for every game. We know it is difficult to win the league but we know the players will fight until the end. It's going to be difficult and will go right until the end. Manchester United have been there and know what it takes. Sir Alex Ferguson knows the league better than anyone else. It will be a big challenge but everyone is ready."
Vieira was joined at the club by fellow Frenchmen Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy in the summer but says he had little influence on their decision to swap his former club Arsenal for the Etihad Stadium.
"It was their decision," Vieira said. "Gael and Samir decide for themselves they wanted to come. They are French and I know them really well and they asked me some questions and I gave them the answers and they made the final decision.
"They have settled in really good. Samir has been a fantastic asset and so has Gael."
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Kevin Affleck
Feb 16, 2012
ABU DHABI // Patrick Vieira says Roberto Mancini will face a selection dilemma should the Manchester City manager decide to integrate Carlos Tevez back into the first-team squad.
The Argentine reported back to the club on Tuesday night after exiling himself in South America for three months and was not part of the squad who trained ahead of Thursday night's Europa League game at Porto.
The striker, who failed to land his desired move to AC Milan last month, will undergo a series of medical and fitness assessments and is likely to work with the conditioning team at the club's Carrington training ground on a specific fitness programme to get him into the required shape to be considered for a place in the City attack, which already boasts Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko and Mario Balotelli.
"The manager will have a tough choice choosing a starting XI," Vieira, City's football development executive, said on Wednesday. "When you see what Carlos did last season, it is clear what he can do for the team but it is not my decision. That is down to Roberto and other people at the club so if Carlos comes back and can give something to the football club then I think everyone will be happy."
Vieira said he has a "close relationship" with the players but declined to comment on the effect Tevez, who has sought to engineer a move away from the club several times, would have on the dressing room. He was, however, much more comfortable in extolling the managerial virtues of Mancini, the Italian who has been at loggerheads with the Argentine.
"We have quite a good relationship," said Vieira. "I worked with him at Inter and he's a winner. He came to City to win and he has the desire to do well. He was really successful at Inter and he wants to be really successful at City and you can't blame a manager who wants to be successful."
Mancini imported Vieira from Inter Milan two years ago, believing his experience of winning 11 trophies in England, including three Premier League titles, would rub off on his expensive but inexperienced squad.
Vieira signed off his career by adding a 12th title to his CV by winning the FA Cup with City last summer and has since moved upstairs into an executive role.
He says he is "enjoying the role" and has not felt the need to pass on his title-winning experience to a City side chasing their first English league title in 40 years.
"They players don't need advice [from me] as the players are really focused," Vieira said. "They are so committed for every game. We know it is difficult to win the league but we know the players will fight until the end. It's going to be difficult and will go right until the end. Manchester United have been there and know what it takes. Sir Alex Ferguson knows the league better than anyone else. It will be a big challenge but everyone is ready."
Vieira was joined at the club by fellow Frenchmen Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy in the summer but says he had little influence on their decision to swap his former club Arsenal for the Etihad Stadium.
"It was their decision," Vieira said. "Gael and Samir decide for themselves they wanted to come. They are French and I know them really well and they asked me some questions and I gave them the answers and they made the final decision.
"They have settled in really good. Samir has been a fantastic asset and so has Gael."
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oakiecokie
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BobKowalski said:Didsbury Dave said:SWP's back said:£30m (add the fine back in) and it makes very little difference mate. As I say, financially, we'll have suffered more on Ade and RSC.
We need a new CEO of that there is no doubt. Tevez went off message by the look of Kia's subsequent interviews.
All I'm saying is I don't think the whole think half as important as is being portrayed by those that love a good bit of drama and hysteria.
Yes, and I bet the big man would have rather we hadn't lost tens of millions on those players too. I know some of you don't like to hear it but we are still a Ferrari driven by a 14 year old boy at times. That's why our knob rot of a CEO was pushed, that's why we had the shambolic press conference, that's why this whole tevez thing has rumbled on and on without someone solving it.
We try hard, we mean well, hell, we are still loveable old city at heart. But boy we need leadership at times. I have high hopes for a summer shakeup and an end to these fucking sagas
I can't pretend to know exactly what Sheikh Mansour (aka 'the big man') thinks on any given subject let alone Tevez however it is fairly clear that the reason why Tevez didn't get sold/released in January is because 'the big man' was in a 'fuck Tevez' mood.
Tevez out of the club on loan to Milan or anybody would have suited Mancini down to the ground. The powers that be decided otherwise and for 'powers that be' read 'the big man'.
This has ceased to be about football, squad morale or whatever. Its all about City or more precisely the owner not willing to be dicked around. Crying about CEO's or leadership is irrelevant. Banging on about what Mancini should or should not have done is pissing in the wind. Sheikh Mansour got the hump over Tevez and withdrew loyalty bonuses. Tevez got the hump back and decided not to go on the pitch. Since then its been a battle and Sheikh Mansour is, seemingly, not willing to let it go. We know this because Tevez is still here - much I think to Tevez's own surprise.
The interview Tevez gave was dumb. It reinforces the Club's opinion of him and allows Mancini to isolate him whilst he is at the club. How much of a distraction it will be who knows but so far it has proved to be an irrelevance. Lets hope it continues to be so.
The fucking best post for ages on this thread.
Well said Bob.