Bill
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yep, i'd leave vinny as skipper though.hilts said:
Tevez transfer saga
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charliebigspuds
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Tevez wants to be loved and you cannot fault his effort on the pitch BUT he comes across as somebody who, lets say, isn't the sharpest tool in the box, therefore he is easily manipulated by his advisor(s), he's never shown any loyalty to any club so why should we be any different? he's a bad apple who is continually looking for his next move and never hangs around anywhere for more than two years, a great player but greedy and naive!
hilts
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charliebigspuds said:
Thing is i have a general indifference to all footballers, there is very little loyalty left in the game their just doing a job, but i actually dislike tevez.
i would rather keep balotelli than tevez but it doesnt make any sense thinking this way as their performances have been poles apart and im pretty sure balotelli would rather be in italy
charliebigspuds said:
This is spot on.
Players come and go. Tevez does those things more than most.
He has been a great asset but other players can grow once he has gone.
I will miss him but I would be more gutted to lose Vinny, NDJ or Silva.
At least we should get a fair price.
stonerblue
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Lucky13 said:
While he's in that lovely bubble we'd all give our right arm to be in his agent makes fuck all out of him. Has he ever been with a club beyond 2 seasons
Ricster
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hilts said:
To be honest, NO!
As much as i admire Tevez for his hard work and graft for trying to win every ball, when i watch the semi final back we look far more disciplined and balanced.
Hear me out.
When Tevez chases players back, harrasses players, then yeah he might win the ball back but there is no straight outlet once he does win it back because of the style we play. So the ball has to be passed back to De Jong, Kompany or whoever, and the slow passage of play, that frustrates so many starts all over and allows the defending team to get into shape.
Now with Balotelli on Saturday, while he did come back a few times and add some pressure, most of the time he stayed up the pitch, looking to make runs in behind United, or coming short and playing a 1-2 and then making the movement again, but the majority of the time he spent as a forward. Also, when players like De Jong, Barry, Kompany, etc win the ball back, they have that extra option to hit the team on the counter, having Balotelli upfront too i think we get more out of Yaya aswell, as he doesn't always have to bust a gut to get forward because Tevez has ran all the way to right back to get the ball.
As much as i love Carlos, i think we have a better shape and balance without him.
itsnevereasy
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I think Tevez has held the teams development back, at times it has been a one man show and he has carried us on his back, whilst grateful for this we need to team to be able to pull together and get results when it matters (ie last Sat).
Yes his goals have been a huge help this season but I think that his self centred work rate have stopped Balo and Dzeko from growing into the team, I think I read on here that Tevez has passed 6 times to Dzeko in the league, hardly a team player if true.
It is clear that he will be gone in the summer, not turning up for the semi made it perfectly clear that he doesn't care for the club or the fans. I just hope one day he looks back I thinks that he made a huge mistake in leaving us.
Yes his goals have been a huge help this season but I think that his self centred work rate have stopped Balo and Dzeko from growing into the team, I think I read on here that Tevez has passed 6 times to Dzeko in the league, hardly a team player if true.
It is clear that he will be gone in the summer, not turning up for the semi made it perfectly clear that he doesn't care for the club or the fans. I just hope one day he looks back I thinks that he made a huge mistake in leaving us.
Doyaldinho
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/23/machester-city-carlos-tevez-internazionale
After reading this article it seems that Carlos Tevez is the only player in the world who scores goals and if we sell him we won't signs anybody to replace him we'll just stick with Dzeko and Balotelli. Are these guys for real? Sloppy journalism suggesting that if we flog him we'll be screwed.
Here is the article in full if you don't like linky clicky:
Manchester City are increasingly convinced that Carlos Tevez will try to resurrect a transfer away from the club this summer, in part because of the difficulties in his relationship with Roberto Mancini.
Tevez is being prominently linked with a £40m move to Internazionale and there is a begrudging acceptance at Eastlands, both at boardroom level and among the management, that the club captain is giving serious consideration to leaving.
Mancini evaded the issue when he was asked at his press conference on Thursday whether the injured 26-year-old may have played his last game for the club. Since then, however, the Italian's associates have confirmed he fears the worst, and that he is not alone at City when it comes to feeling uneasy about the Argentinian's strategy for the next few months.
The Guardian has also established that Tevez has several grievances with Mancini despite making a great show of praising the manager when he withdrew his transfer request last December. The pair have had an occasionally volatile relationship even though Mancini made the Argentinian his captain at the start of the season in a deliberate attempt to pacify him.
Tevez also believes there are several unresolved issues from December, when he feels he was treated badly by the club. One of his points at the time was that he felt a move to Spain or Italy would enable him to see more of his daughters, Florencia and Katia, now he is separated from their mother, Vanessa. That remains the case.
Inter would be one of the few clubs with the financial power to arrange a possible deal, particularly if they sell Wesley Sneijder, but the Tevez camp have told this newspaper that reports in Italy of him verbally agreeing a five-year contract to move to San Siro are "categorically untrue".
Tevez has been staying in Milan, with City's permission, for treatment on the hamstring injury that is threatening to ruin his chances of playing in the FA Cup final. His girlfriend, an actress, is also currently working in the city. Tevez is being treated by the Argentinian team doctor at the hotel where Inter's players and staff stay before matches, the explanation being that the same doctor is also treating Walter Samuel.
City's stance is that they will not address the matter until the end of the season but that it will be their decision, not Tevez's, citing what happened when he submitted his transfer request in December. Khaldoon Al Mubarak, the club's chairman, became personally involved, flying from Abu Dhabi to Manchester to tell the striker that he was under contract and would not be allowed to leave midway through the season. Even then, however, City were privately admitting they were not confident enough to be certain the player and his representatives saw it as more than a short-term agreement.
What is not clear is whether City have the appetite to dissuade him once again. Tevez has a nomadic track record, with five different employers in 10 years, and his position at City is complicated by the difficult relationship between the club and the player's adviser, Kia Joorabchian.
Garry Cook, City's chief executive, was once a close ally of the man at the centre of Tevez's business dealings, but that disintegrated last year to the point where they were communicating only via email. Tevez released a statement at the time saying his relationship with the club's executives had "broken down and is beyond repair". City's feelings were laid bare in their own statement, saying they were "disappointed by this situation and particularly the actions of Carlos's representative". Joorabchian, however, has always strongly denied that he tried to influence Tevez to leave the club.
Tevez's form has dipped over the last couple of months and he recently went his longest run of games without scoring. Yet it speaks volumes for his record at City that it was only an eight-match sequence. Tevez has been one of the more prolific strikers in the Premier League and, if he were to leave, it would represent a major loss to the team's hopes of mounting an authentic title challenge next season. He is City's leading scorer, with 22 goals, and has scored 51 times in 82 games.
City's other options in attack are limited, with Edin Dzeko struggling to adapt to life in England since his £27m move from Wolfsburg in January. Mancini believes Mario Balotelli can have a more productive second season but does not want Emmanuel Adebayor or Craig Bellamy to return from loan spells with Real Madrid and Cardiff City, while the Brazilian Jô is expected to leave.
After reading this article it seems that Carlos Tevez is the only player in the world who scores goals and if we sell him we won't signs anybody to replace him we'll just stick with Dzeko and Balotelli. Are these guys for real? Sloppy journalism suggesting that if we flog him we'll be screwed.
Here is the article in full if you don't like linky clicky:
Manchester City are increasingly convinced that Carlos Tevez will try to resurrect a transfer away from the club this summer, in part because of the difficulties in his relationship with Roberto Mancini.
Tevez is being prominently linked with a £40m move to Internazionale and there is a begrudging acceptance at Eastlands, both at boardroom level and among the management, that the club captain is giving serious consideration to leaving.
Mancini evaded the issue when he was asked at his press conference on Thursday whether the injured 26-year-old may have played his last game for the club. Since then, however, the Italian's associates have confirmed he fears the worst, and that he is not alone at City when it comes to feeling uneasy about the Argentinian's strategy for the next few months.
The Guardian has also established that Tevez has several grievances with Mancini despite making a great show of praising the manager when he withdrew his transfer request last December. The pair have had an occasionally volatile relationship even though Mancini made the Argentinian his captain at the start of the season in a deliberate attempt to pacify him.
Tevez also believes there are several unresolved issues from December, when he feels he was treated badly by the club. One of his points at the time was that he felt a move to Spain or Italy would enable him to see more of his daughters, Florencia and Katia, now he is separated from their mother, Vanessa. That remains the case.
Inter would be one of the few clubs with the financial power to arrange a possible deal, particularly if they sell Wesley Sneijder, but the Tevez camp have told this newspaper that reports in Italy of him verbally agreeing a five-year contract to move to San Siro are "categorically untrue".
Tevez has been staying in Milan, with City's permission, for treatment on the hamstring injury that is threatening to ruin his chances of playing in the FA Cup final. His girlfriend, an actress, is also currently working in the city. Tevez is being treated by the Argentinian team doctor at the hotel where Inter's players and staff stay before matches, the explanation being that the same doctor is also treating Walter Samuel.
City's stance is that they will not address the matter until the end of the season but that it will be their decision, not Tevez's, citing what happened when he submitted his transfer request in December. Khaldoon Al Mubarak, the club's chairman, became personally involved, flying from Abu Dhabi to Manchester to tell the striker that he was under contract and would not be allowed to leave midway through the season. Even then, however, City were privately admitting they were not confident enough to be certain the player and his representatives saw it as more than a short-term agreement.
What is not clear is whether City have the appetite to dissuade him once again. Tevez has a nomadic track record, with five different employers in 10 years, and his position at City is complicated by the difficult relationship between the club and the player's adviser, Kia Joorabchian.
Garry Cook, City's chief executive, was once a close ally of the man at the centre of Tevez's business dealings, but that disintegrated last year to the point where they were communicating only via email. Tevez released a statement at the time saying his relationship with the club's executives had "broken down and is beyond repair". City's feelings were laid bare in their own statement, saying they were "disappointed by this situation and particularly the actions of Carlos's representative". Joorabchian, however, has always strongly denied that he tried to influence Tevez to leave the club.
Tevez's form has dipped over the last couple of months and he recently went his longest run of games without scoring. Yet it speaks volumes for his record at City that it was only an eight-match sequence. Tevez has been one of the more prolific strikers in the Premier League and, if he were to leave, it would represent a major loss to the team's hopes of mounting an authentic title challenge next season. He is City's leading scorer, with 22 goals, and has scored 51 times in 82 games.
City's other options in attack are limited, with Edin Dzeko struggling to adapt to life in England since his £27m move from Wolfsburg in January. Mancini believes Mario Balotelli can have a more productive second season but does not want Emmanuel Adebayor or Craig Bellamy to return from loan spells with Real Madrid and Cardiff City, while the Brazilian Jô is expected to leave.
Lucky13 said:
Because he is a selfish twat who claiming he was seeing his premature child during crucial games for us and was granted special leave only to be pictured with the glamour girl who ruined his marriage. His wife lived here with his child and he made a fool out of her with his constant cheating he didnt even try to hide it and she left back to Argentina. I dont think he cares about how good we become or about the fans he thinks only of Carlos. 6 clubs in his career all of which he has left on "bad" terms claiming that he was not treated right. Plus that pimp of an agent of his and his inability to keep his dick in his pants and we all have to suffer for it when he is rightfully punished by those he has hurt.
A Brief History Of Carlos Tevez
The boy's got form...
Boca Juniors (2001-2004)
Tevez forces his way out of the club claiming that the press intrusion in Argentina is too much for him and his family and the club aren't doing enough to support him. Public bust-up with manager also ensues.
Claims he loves the club and supporters, and always will.
Time at club: Two-and-a-half seasons.
Corinthians (2005-2006)
Tevez forces his way out of the club, going on strike, after arguments - some physical - with teammates, the head coach and the club president.
Claims he loves the club and supporters, and always will.
Time at club: One season.
West Ham (2006-2007)
Tevez almost immediately falls out with the manager and players. Storms off and threatens to go on strike after being substituted. Goes AWOL to Argentina at one point.
Claims he loves the club and supporters, and always will.
Time at club: One season.
Manchester United (2007-2009)
Tevez complains of being fatigued and overplayed in his first season. In his second, he complains of being underplayed - drama queening it every time he's taken off - managing just five goals, despite playing more minutes than the league's third top scorer Fernando Torres. Parting shot of "I'll scream in Ferguson's face when I score against them".
Claims he loves the club and supporters, and always will.
Time at club: Two seasons.
Manchester City (2009-????)
Tevez is tired, homesick, wants to retire, takes time off to see his daughter and is caught on camera spending that time allegedly banging his mistress (the actually banging remains unphotographed), feels there's too much greed in football despite being the highest-paid player in Britain, hates football in general yet throws a wobbly every time he's taken off, wants his old life back, hates the club executives, claims that he would like to punch his young teammates and finally hands in a transfer request.
Claims he loves the club and supporters, and always will.
Time at club: One-and-a-half seasons so far, some of it begrudgingly.
Before he played in Boca Juniors he was playing for a club called All Boys, this club didn't want to sell him to Boca because he was only a youngster so in order to be able to move to another club he changed his name, his real name is not Carlos Tevez, and he ended up moving to Boca for virtually nothing his real name is Carlos Alberto Martinez.
The girlfriend who lives in Italy 19 year old Brenda Asnicar.
Ricster said:
Well said. I cosign that 100%.
Totnes Blue
Well-Known Member
Any player who puts in a transfer request should be told they can leave at the next transfer window,and not play for the first team again.After viewing Teves' history,it all becomes clear.Time for him to go.