Tevez....

[Balti]

Im not fully defending him but what people fail to see is that ppart of this issue has been caused by the managers previous and subsequent actions

People fail to see that because this issue is entirely caused by Tevez lack of professionalism. It doesn't matter one bit what Mancini has said and done post the incident, as if he lacks trust in the player he won't play again, and that trust was lost part way through the match (if not earlier).

sorry moomba but i disagree.

while i support the club and managers stance now with tevez thewhole story started well before this and that has to do with the manager as well.....tevez as you say at this point has acted unprofessionally in not warming up....fully agree and the club could throw the book at him purely for that and ignoring the managers instructions

but what leads a player like tevez to do this....what leads him to want out of a club that has more potential than any other in the world...and its nothing to do with money??!?!?!?!??!...its could be ego i agree but there are 2 egos at play here liek to positive polls of a battery they push each other away.

its pre the incident im talking about.....from the moment that mancini took over to the point in munich......there has been a breakdown in relationships for some reasons...some of that will be tevez fault...some will be mancinis...he has a temper as we all ready know and he has an ego (he was a striker himself and they seem to be the worst when it comes to an ego problem so it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone)

maybe so

but changes nothing

Back Bobby who is delivering

Or back a greedy little fucker who wants to leave City anyway

 

[simon23]

he never dissed the club.......he dissed the city......completely different...infact he has repeatedly praised the fans and he owners (and rightly so!)

Oh, yeah. You're going to influence people with this argument.

im not trying to influence anyone..pointing out a glaring inaccuracy is all.......and i was born and bread in manchester and i wasnt offened bywhat he said about the city...i couldnt give two hoots what he thinks about it....its a city just like most others (not as good as some....better than others)

 

[im_still_here]

he never dissed the club.......he dissed the city......completely different...infact he has repeatedly praised the fans and he owners (and rightly so!)

Oh, yeah. You're going to influence people with this argument.

im not trying to influence anyone..pointing out a glaring inaccuracy is all.......and i was born and bread in manchester and i wasnt offened bywhat he said about the city...i couldnt give two hoots what he thinks about it....its a city just like most others (not as good as some....better than others)

At the end of the day he is representing the city when he plays for us.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

I reckon if Tevez comes back there will be proper kick offs between the fans who want/don't want him to play

 

[simon23]

THE SOONER THIS TWAT LEAVES CITY THE BETTER! I'm sick of Tevez this Tevez that fucking sick of TEVEZ

stop reading a thread entitled "Tevez" then....i would have thought that was pretty obvious

;-)

 

[The Future's Blue]

I reckon if Tevez comes back there will be proper kick offs between the fans who want/don't want him to play

I hope it's 50/50.

Where's that popcorn?

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

We play better without him and look more dangerous..... Simple knowledge tells you we should carry on with the way we are doing he doesn't like being a sub player so he can go fuck off and take that **** of an agent with him.....

Sorry but the guy has lived over here for 5 years knows the ins and outs of the country, not bothered learning the language lived in Manchester 2 years before moving to City then when moves to City a year later complains he doesn't like Manchester (why did he go from a Manchester club to another then, baffles me) then has the audacity to slag said Town off on an Argentine programme, then disrespects the Club that pays his wages by handing in a transfer request and stating numorus times that he wishes to depart said club that pay's his wages week in week out also sending him on random holidays to spend with his kids whilst everyone else plays in the pissing rain, he shows a great amount of disrespect for the Captains arm band which was given to him to persuade him to stay like a child being offered a lollypop to stop crying!!

Yet people STILL want him at the club? Stone Roses sell 220,000 tickets in just over an hour and people are buying them off ebay for £4,000!!

The worlds gone mad

 

[Balti]

he never dissed the club.......he dissed the city......completely different...infact he has repeatedly praised the fans and he owners (and rightly so!)

Oh, yeah. You're going to influence people with this argument.

im not trying to influence anyone..pointing out a glaring inaccuracy is all.......and i was born and bread in manchester and i wasnt offened bywhat he said about the city...i couldnt give two hoots what he thinks about it....its a city just like most others (not as good as some....better than others)

Glaring inaccuracy my arse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...ez-withdraws-transfer-request-manchester-city

This was almost a year ago

Nothing if not consistent the greedy little twat

 

[simon23]

the relationship between tevez and mancini has never been good....te relationship between tevez and other players is fine....they all at least hold him in high regard....

Was told during the US tour this summer by someone who works with City in the Community charity that the players DO NOT care for Tevez. Publicly, they will say the right thing & show unity, but they don't like him.

And let's clear up the bullshit semantics....he refused to play/no he didn't he only refused to warm up.
I don't give a shit if he refused to piss when Mancini told him to the fact is..... ready for it??????

HE REFUSED A DIRECT ORDER FROM HIS MANAGER DURING A CRUCIAL EUROPEAN MATCH. An order is an order. He refused. He is in breach as far as I'm concerned.

he obviously at one point followed an order to warm up as well as he had been warming up.

but as i have said numerous times he should have warmed up again..im not arguing on that

and as for your source...again just hearsay....gossip etc

 

[deano ou812]

beggars belief that this comes out before such a big game,as for tevez still want rid of the bastard,refusing a request from the manager is breach of contract no two ways about it,as long as the cnut does'nt play for the team and continues to train alone then ship him out asap in january....

 

[simon23]

THE PPL DEFENDING HIM ARE EITHER RAGS, WUMS OR JOHNNY COME LATELYS.

NO TRUE CITY SUPPORTER WOULD WANT HIM BACK.

HOW CAN HE REPRESENT THE CITY HE HAS SLAGGED OFF ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS????????????????????

sat on the wall at the north stand end of the kippax street from 1981 onwards (aged 6)...if that makes me a rag or a johnny come lately then fine.

typical poor responce to call someone a rag/not a true supporter......get over yorself!

 

[moomba]

sorry moomba but i disagree.

while i support the club and managers stance now with tevez thewhole story started well before this and that has to do with the manager as well.....tevez as you say at this point has acted unprofessionally in not warming up....fully agree and the club could throw the book at him purely for that and ignoring the managers instructions

but what leads a player like tevez to do this....what leads him to want out of a club that has more potential than any other in the world...and its nothing to do with money??!?!?!?!??!...its could be ego i agree but there are 2 egos at play here liek to positive polls of a battery they push each other away.

its pre the incident im talking about.....from the moment that mancini took over to the point in munich......there has been a breakdown in relationships for some reasons...some of that will be tevez fault...some will be mancinis...he has a temper as we all ready know and he has an ego (he was a striker himself and they seem to be the worst when it comes to an ego problem so it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone)

Tevez has had a major falling out at every club he's played at. Personally I believe it has a lot to do with money. Agents (sorry Advisors) cut of a signing on fee can be quite significant, particular when a signing on fee is high because the transfer fee is low.

What Tevez makes out of it is irrelevant.

 

[waspish]

THE PPL DEFENDING HIM ARE EITHER RAGS, WUMS OR JOHNNY COME LATELYS.

NO TRUE CITY SUPPORTER WOULD WANT HIM BACK.

HOW CAN HE REPRESENT THE CITY HE HAS SLAGGED OFF ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS????????????????????

100% correct out in the real world I have not spoken to 1 city supporter who wants that Twat Tevez any where near city's first team

 

[waspish]

THE SOONER THIS TWAT LEAVES CITY THE BETTER! I'm sick of Tevez this Tevez that fucking sick of TEVEZ

stop reading a thread entitled "Tevez" then....i would have thought that was pretty obvious

;-)

Haha I'm a masochist and love to hate Tevez after I turned the other cheek twice the third time I want blood

 

[phil31]

Im not fully defending him but what people fail to see is that ppart of this issue has been caused by the managers previous and subsequent actions

People fail to see that because this issue is entirely caused by Tevez lack of professionalism. It doesn't matter one bit what Mancini has said and done post the incident, as if he lacks trust in the player he won't play again, and that trust was lost part way through the match (if not earlier).

sorry moomba but i disagree.

while i support the club and managers stance now with tevez thewhole story started well before this and that has to do with the manager as well.....tevez as you say at this point has acted unprofessionally in not warming up....fully agree and the club could throw the book at him purely for that and ignoring the managers instructions

but what leads a player like tevez to do this....what leads him to want out of a club that has more potential than any other in the world...and its nothing to do with money??!?!?!?!??!...its could be ego i agree but there are 2 egos at play here liek to positive polls of a battery they push each other away.

its pre the incident im talking about.....from the moment that mancini took over to the point in munich......there has been a breakdown in relationships for some reasons...some of that will be tevez fault...some will be mancinis...he has a temper as we all ready know and he has an ego (he was a striker himself and they seem to be the worst when it comes to an ego problem so it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone)

What your failing to grasp, is that Tevez has no affinity to Man City. He doesn't care about anyone apart from himself. He is only playing football in this country because he gets paid huge amounts of money.
Didn't he say not to long ago that he was thinking about retiring from football. Well i think now is a good time for him to do it.
If Tevez ever plays football for Manchester City ever again I will be very surprised.
Carlos Tevez always states that he comes from the slum. In my opinion he never left it. He is thick as pig shit. At the end of the day, most footballers in this day and age play football for the manager, not the club. Tevez has proved he doesn't want to play for Mancini when he refused to do what the manager asked him to do, warm up again. Just fuciking warm up again you dumb ****. Mancini doesn't want Tevez in his team anymore, he said it himself, case closed. Tevez is a rotten apple. No matter how you dress it up, everyone in fooball knows tevez is hard to work with.
Its obvious to everyone he is a money grabbing mercenary. You dont like Manchester Tevez. Guess what Carlos, Manchester doesn't like you, so fuck off.

 

[Blue Haze]

This information gets out on the Friday before the derby?

Can we please get some professionals to run this club? Yeah I know, great website, global brand, yada yada. We need a CEO who has the brains to delay this determination until after the derby so it won't leak until then.

 

[dom]

People fail to see that because this issue is entirely caused by Tevez lack of professionalism. It doesn't matter one bit what Mancini has said and done post the incident, as if he lacks trust in the player he won't play again, and that trust was lost part way through the match (if not earlier).

sorry moomba but i disagree.

while i support the club and managers stance now with tevez thewhole story started well before this and that has to do with the manager as well.....tevez as you say at this point has acted unprofessionally in not warming up....fully agree and the club could throw the book at him purely for that and ignoring the managers instructions

but what leads a player like tevez to do this....what leads him to want out of a club that has more potential than any other in the world...and its nothing to do with money??!?!?!?!??!...its could be ego i agree but there are 2 egos at play here liek to positive polls of a battery they push each other away.

its pre the incident im talking about.....from the moment that mancini took over to the point in munich......there has been a breakdown in relationships for some reasons...some of that will be tevez fault...some will be mancinis...he has a temper as we all ready know and he has an ego (he was a striker himself and they seem to be the worst when it comes to an ego problem so it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone)

maybe so

but changes nothing

Back Bobby who is delivering

Or back a greedy little fucker who wants to leave City anyway

This

 

[simon23]

People fail to see that because this issue is entirely caused by Tevez lack of professionalism. It doesn't matter one bit what Mancini has said and done post the incident, as if he lacks trust in the player he won't play again, and that trust was lost part way through the match (if not earlier).

sorry moomba but i disagree.

while i support the club and managers stance now with tevez thewhole story started well before this and that has to do with the manager as well.....tevez as you say at this point has acted unprofessionally in not warming up....fully agree and the club could throw the book at him purely for that and ignoring the managers instructions

but what leads a player like tevez to do this....what leads him to want out of a club that has more potential than any other in the world...and its nothing to do with money??!?!?!?!??!...its could be ego i agree but there are 2 egos at play here liek to positive polls of a battery they push each other away.

its pre the incident im talking about.....from the moment that mancini took over to the point in munich......there has been a breakdown in relationships for some reasons...some of that will be tevez fault...some will be mancinis...he has a temper as we all ready know and he has an ego (he was a striker himself and they seem to be the worst when it comes to an ego problem so it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone)

maybe so

but changes nothing

Back Bobby who is delivering

Or back a greedy little fucker who wants to leave City anyway

you clearly are reading everything i write and just concentrating on the bits you disagree with

i do back the manager and even though i would want tevez to play for city (as he is an exceptional player and with him we have a better chance of getting to the very top) i accept that his days are and have to be numbered...it is virtually impossible to find a way back from this point.

it changes nothing now..BUT RM needs to learn for the future...this wont be the last time he comes up against this sort of issue and having a fully fit world class player in your team and reading from the same page as you is going to benefit the team....losing him is not (unless you think replacing players time and time again is good fr the club?)....hopefully the issues wont arise again as RM will elarn to deal with it better in the first instance....im not saying players should be pandered to but some players do need to be treated a little bit differently again

i wonder how city fans would react if one of our top players did what cnatona did by attacking a fan......???? he brought shame on the whole club but ferguson stuck by him...would our fans and manager do the same?...just a question

 

[The Future's Blue]

We've got a game on Sunday you know.

 

[waspish]

This information gets out on the Friday before the derby?

Can we please get some professionals to run this club? Yeah I know, great website, global brand, yada yada. We need a CEO who has the brains to delay this determination until after the derby so it won't leak until then.

As if city are leaking this info you know who it is so why write that