That's 2 strikers now who's heads have gone. Mario now Dzeko

[pappa]

Dzecko isn't interested he shouldn't be played.let him go to Milan or Germany.we havnt been good enough all season.tevez gives 100% so does aguero.always think it's harder for strikers when we play so narrow with no wingers & without silva no creativity

 

[citymad]

I didn't try and blame the manager, I suggested reasons why he 'might' be accountable for things, as opposed to you, who stated that he definitely wasn't responsible for certain things. Neither of us know the facts so I was attempting to open eyes to more possibilities.

I agree with you in some capitalist kind of way, but in reality, even though I am paid to do my job, if I go to work and my manager criticises my work but doesn't offer any direction to help me correct it, and continues to praise others over me, only giving me smaller roles then it could affect my attitude to him and possibly my job. He's only human.

Dzeko's season speaks badly for him and the manager

I just want him to play as he can for City. Throwing away time at a top top club. That's criminal. Most footballers would kill for a starting berth in the Premiership Champions but he's had his cigars out all season.

The whole side has been shit all season. Dzeko is crap and he's still our leading scorer. What does that tell you.

Sitting in 2nd with only 5 losses is hardly shite. It's the draws,injuries to key players and depth of squad that have cost us. Players like Zabba, Tevez, Milner, Nasty and Silva have all had pretty good seasons but some yaya, Joe and nasri have been a bit below what we expect. As far as Dzeko is concerned not sure why he has put in some poor performances. I used to really like him and i know he's quality on his day but boy does he have a poor attitude at the moment.

 

[CC1]

I didn't try and blame the manager, I suggested reasons why he 'might' be accountable for things, as opposed to you, who stated that he definitely wasn't responsible for certain things. Neither of us know the facts so I was attempting to open eyes to more possibilities.

I agree with you in some capitalist kind of way, but in reality, even though I am paid to do my job, if I go to work and my manager criticises my work but doesn't offer any direction to help me correct it, and continues to praise others over me, only giving me smaller roles then it could affect my attitude to him and possibly my job. He's only human.

Dzeko's season speaks badly for him and the manager

I just want him to play as he can for City. Throwing away time at a top top club. That's criminal. Most footballers would kill for a starting berth in the Premiership Champions but he's had his cigars out all season.

The whole side has been shit all season. Dzeko is crap and he's still our leading scorer. What does that tell you.

Well, to inject a bit of perspective, it means we are second in the league and in the FA Cup final!!! SO, perhaps we are all forgetting where we've come from and where we are heading to.....success we have had and will continue to have in the future!!

 

[Marvin]

Marvin. You can't blame Mancini for Dzeko's inability to control or pass a football. So how do you get the best out of him then ?

He says he's not a super-sub. So when you get a start you have to grab it with both hands. This has happened before so I conclude that his heart is not in it.

Man-management should allow a manager to get inside his players heads and get the most from them. Sometimes you have to conclude that a player is not for you and move him on, but I get the feeling that Mancini just doesn't have an interest in molly-coddling his players.

I don't know what is going on, but I'm very disappointed with Dzeko's performances. I rarely criticise players and I'm always coming up with excuses for player and manager, but this does not reflect well on either

 

[noise]

I can't help but feel the lack of signing to bolster our ranks, and Mancini's deficiencies has turned this team into a one trick pony.

Our tactic is basically: Defend, retain ball possession without any clear attacking plan, and rely on individual moments of brilliance for scoring.

Our set pieces are awful too, I can't remember the last time we scored from a dead ball or a well coordinated counter attack.

Also Tevez and Dzeko should never be played together, they have zero communication or partnership together. This is something Mancini got right last season and rarely had these two playing together. Dzeko needs to be sold this summer especially if Tevez is staying.

 

[dobobobo]

Is that mancini's fault? Or maybe you just can't have 4 top strikers competing for 2 starting spots

I don't know.

Mario was a child, but Dzeko is supposedly a good professional

I wouldnt be suprised if Dezko is bipolar. hes that inconsitent

I've said that Mario is bipolar a number of times. With Dzeko I think it's a case of, unless the balls lands exactly where he wants, then he's on the deck having a temper tantrum.

In other words, I think the opposite.

 

[bert's broken neck]

Marvin. You can't blame Mancini for Dzeko's inability to control or pass a football. So how do you get the best out of him then ?

Tell him to stop trying to play football (he can't!)

Keep him away from the flanks (does my head in every time I see him out on the left fucking wing!) stay inside the channels and around the box and put the ball in the fucking net when he gets a chance.

If he only did that once every game we'd all be singing his praises, instead of slagging him off (justifyably so, based on his recent efforts, I'm afraid.)

 

[Blue Heaven]

Did something happen with him and Mancini, or are we just upset with him because he was shit today?

He was shite today, no specific incident with Bobby. Then again, Edin was hardly the only culprit. Both Yaya and Clichy were prime offenders, swanning about today. Vinny didn't have a good game either, partly culpable for each of the first two goals.

-- Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:44 am --

He also bought Nastasic, Clichy, Aguero, Silva, Yaya and Milner

Sinclair, Maicon, Rodwell...and his favorite player, Nasri.

Players like Kompany can have a bad game. I can accept that

But now I just don't trust Dzeko because I can't remember the last time he played well

Fair point, Marvin. He's been largely anonymous for some time, and I suspect he knows the club will jettison him in the summer. Maybe a deal has already been agreed?<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:21 pm --<br /><br />

Very disappointed in Dzeko. But how did Mancini allow this careless attitude to happen on his watch? Dzeko has been turning in these lacklustre performances for some time, and you'd think he'd want to prove his point, and you'd think the manager would sit down with the player months back and ensure his heart is in it. He's not given 100% for a long time.

Yes, something that most people have noticed except our manager and back room staff, apparantly. It's a pity Guidetti has not been fit enough to play a part in the last month, we could have seen whether he is going to be a player or not.

I'm sick of hearing how 'its the manager's fault' when players play badly or cannot motivate themselves for big games. Dzeko gets paid a fortune; plays for the best team in England - he shouldn't need the manager to lift him - he's a man not a ****ing child. These players get everything done for them. Aguero, Silva & Tevez take matters into their own hands - why can't Dzeko - he simply has proved that it's much easier to look good in the leagues elsewhere in Europe.

I think it's far more likely that Edin is playing poorly than it is likely that the Bundesliga sucks. Bayern and BVB in the CL semis might be a clue.

 

[Blue Heaven]

Edin was poor today - probably the worst i have seen him - blaming Mancini for that performance is wrong

What if today showed that his head isn't in it anymore because Mancini has continually left him out without talkin to him an directing him how to improve to get back in the team, there's been speculation about him leaving, etc... And so he is playing at his best? Isn't Mancini responsible for getting the players and the team to play to their potential? It's not like he went out and did his own thing and ignored bobby's tactics, he (as he has been most of the season) just doesn't seem on board.

Oh and I've just 'realised' something that everyone else had probably considered already. Carlos, joleon, gazBaz haven't had their new contracts renewed... Because the club want to wait and see... If the new manager wants to keep them?? Why else has it not happened? We just gave yaya a new deal (any new manager would want him).

"What if" You are guessing and trying your hardest to blame the manager. As said in my previous post I expect players who come to City to be able to put in the effort even if it is proven that they are not good enough to play for a top English Club but Dzeko doesn't put in one tenth of the effort applied by Aguero or Tevez. THAT is not Mancini's fault. He gets paid a fortune to run around yet he doesn't think he has to. He wants the ball on a plate so that he can just knock it in the net. In this league, you have to do a bit more than that - ask Adebayor

When 80 plus percent of your squad is consistently underachieving, it's a management problem at that point. How do you think such a situation would be viewed in the corporate world, or anywhere else, for that matter?<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:26 pm --<br /><br />

What if today showed that his head isn't in it anymore because Mancini has continually left him out without talkin to him an directing him how to improve to get back in the team, there's been speculation about him leaving, etc... And so he is playing at his best? Isn't Mancini responsible for getting the players and the team to play to their potential? It's not like he went out and did his own thing and ignored bobby's tactics, he (as he has been most of the season) just doesn't seem on board.

Oh and I've just 'realised' something that everyone else had probably considered already. Carlos, joleon, gazBaz haven't had their new contracts renewed... Because the club want to wait and see... If the new manager wants to keep them?? Why else has it not happened? We just gave yaya a new deal (any new manager would want him).

"What if" You are guessing and trying your hardest to blame the manager. As said in my previous post I expect players who come to City to be able to put in the effort even if it is proven that they are not good enough to play for a top English Club but Dzeko doesn't put in one tenth of the effort applied by Aguero or Tevez. THAT is not Mancini's fault. He gets paid a fortune to run around yet he doesn't think he has to. He wants the ball on a plate so that he can just knock it in the net. In this league, you have to do a bit more than that - ask Adebayor

I didn't try and blame the manager, I suggested reasons why he 'might' be accountable for things, as opposed to you, who stated that he definitely wasn't responsible for certain things. Neither of us know the facts so I was attempting to open eyes to more possibilities.

I agree with you in some capitalist kind of way, but in reality, even though I am paid to do my job, if I go to work and my manager criticises my work but doesn't offer any direction to help me correct it, and continues to praise others over me, only giving me smaller roles then it could affect my attitude to him and possibly my job. He's only human.

And when you see your manager on the BBC, Sky, and all over the national media calling you out by name and criticizing your job performance in front of the whole world, your motivation at work might suffer further...underperforming employees should be dressed down in private, not in front of the media.

 

[Ragnarok]

What if today showed that his head isn't in it anymore because Mancini has continually left him out without talkin to him an directing him how to improve to get back in the team, there's been speculation about him leaving, etc... And so he is playing at his best? Isn't Mancini responsible for getting the players and the team to play to their potential? It's not like he went out and did his own thing and ignored bobby's tactics, he (as he has been most of the season) just doesn't seem on board.

Oh and I've just 'realised' something that everyone else had probably considered already. Carlos, joleon, gazBaz haven't had their new contracts renewed... Because the club want to wait and see... If the new manager wants to keep them?? Why else has it not happened? We just gave yaya a new deal (any new manager would want him).

"What if" You are guessing and trying your hardest to blame the manager. As said in my previous post I expect players who come to City to be able to put in the effort even if it is proven that they are not good enough to play for a top English Club but Dzeko doesn't put in one tenth of the effort applied by Aguero or Tevez. THAT is not Mancini's fault. He gets paid a fortune to run around yet he doesn't think he has to. He wants the ball on a plate so that he can just knock it in the net. In this league, you have to do a bit more than that - ask Adebayor

When 80 plus percent of your squad is consistently underachieving, it's a management problem at that point. How do you think such a situation would be viewed in the corporate world, or anywhere else, for that matter?

-- Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:26 pm --

"What if" You are guessing and trying your hardest to blame the manager. As said in my previous post I expect players who come to City to be able to put in the effort even if it is proven that they are not good enough to play for a top English Club but Dzeko doesn't put in one tenth of the effort applied by Aguero or Tevez. THAT is not Mancini's fault. He gets paid a fortune to run around yet he doesn't think he has to. He wants the ball on a plate so that he can just knock it in the net. In this league, you have to do a bit more than that - ask Adebayor

I didn't try and blame the manager, I suggested reasons why he 'might' be accountable for things, as opposed to you, who stated that he definitely wasn't responsible for certain things. Neither of us know the facts so I was attempting to open eyes to more possibilities.

I agree with you in some capitalist kind of way, but in reality, even though I am paid to do my job, if I go to work and my manager criticises my work but doesn't offer any direction to help me correct it, and continues to praise others over me, only giving me smaller roles then it could affect my attitude to him and possibly my job. He's only human.

And when you see your manager on the BBC, Sky, and all over the national media calling you out by name and criticizing your job performance in front of the whole world, your motivation at work might suffer further...underperforming employees should be dressed down in private, not in front of the media.

You are forgetting that the job/performance a player does is also there for the whole world to see. Poor analogy. Underperforming employees are dressed down in private because their work is private, not the case with footballers.