That's 2 strikers now who's heads have gone. Mario now Dzeko

[Chippy_boy]

i'm a pro dzeko fan, but his last few performances have been shocking but we know dezko can do it given the games he needs, and he does need game to get into the groove.

It depends what "it" is. If "it" is trying to beat a man, close dribbling and control and swift passing, then no he can't do that. Never has been able to, never will.

Unfortunately, that's what we ask him to do every week. I am not sure who I blame more, Edin for being shit, or Mancini for constantly asking him to do this, when patently he cannot do it.

 

[geek]

i'm a pro dzeko fan, but his last few performances have been shocking but we know dezko can do it given the games he needs, and he does need game to get into the groove.

It depends what "it" is. If "it" is trying to beat a man, close dribbling and control and swift passing, then no he can't do that. Never has been able to, never will.

Unfortunately, that's what we ask him to do every week. I am not sure who I blame more, Edin for being shit, or Mancini for constantly asking him to do this, when patently he cannot do it.

the rest of my post tries to get that across albit badly worded! lol
the blame in this case HAS to remain at mancini's feet he has a player there that we all know can and will score us lots of goals played propperly! and given the correct service!

mancini knew this when he bought him that was his style of play, but to play dzekos game the style has to change but mancini is too stuborn at times to change it. dzeko could be our plan "b" that we dont have.

take the derby we were pumping crosses in like i have never seen before! and the dwarfs were up front, when theres a giant we play to his feet? and thats nva going to work!

we have 3 world class strikers on our books there are plenty of games to play to each of there styles if you wanna play a passing game tevez and augero are your men, wanna play crosses and long ball dzeko is your man.

 

[Chippy_boy]

@geek - I agree, but I have to say Dzeko's winning balls in the air, bringing them down and hold up play - basically classic centre forward stuff - has been a bit shite as well lately.

 

[geek]

@geek - I agree, but I have to say Dzeko's winning balls in the air, bringing them down and hold up play - basically classic centre forward stuff - has been a bit shite as well lately.

is it not just a few games in a row he needs and a good talking to? he certainly is not a shit player(altough past few games have shown otherwise)
i get the idea hes very much a confidence player and needs a bit of praise and telling he's deffo apart of the team in future.
lets not go there about taking him off and putting a defender in his postion!
dzeko and mancini need a good f**king talking to and both need to buck up there ideas or there both out of the door!

 

[Blue2112]

The premier league is too physical for Dzeko. There were times yesterday when all he needed to do was bulldoze his way to an open goal by holding off a defender and he can't do it, never has been his game here. When he gets the ball he's like a 6ft Silva with the way his balance and poise is held, arms at the side wrists/hands outwardly limp as if he's balancing himself to do some trickery. If he was strong and direct and would put his foot through the ball like he should have with that chance yesterday he'd be a bloody handful in this league but he can't and he's not.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The premier league is too physical for Dzeko. There were times yesterday when all he needed to do was bulldoze his way to an open goal by holding off a defender and he can't do it, never has been his game here. When he gets the ball he's like a 6ft Silva with the way his balance and poise is held, arms at the side wrists/hands outwardly limp as if he's balancing himself to do some trickery. If he was strong and direct and would put his foot through the ball like he should have with that chance yesterday he'd be a bloody handful in this league but he can't and he's not.

To be fair, I think he is a natural goalscorer and unlike both Tevez and Aguero who have 20 chances per game and miss 19 of them, Dzeko is lethal in front of goal.

He needs to be played in the correct role/position and - also - needs to get his finger out and stop falling over like a baby. But he is a 30 goal a season striker if his skills fit the team's style of play. Unfortunately for Edin, under Mancini we have played with no pace and no width for 3 seasons now, intricate passes through the middle.

Even when we did have a winger that we played occasionally (Adam Johnson), we played him on the wrong side so he couldn't get quality crosses in. The style of play favoured by Mancini was never going to suit Edin and frankly I don't know why we bought him.

 

[Blue2112]

The premier league is too physical for Dzeko. There were times yesterday when all he needed to do was bulldoze his way to an open goal by holding off a defender and he can't do it, never has been his game here. When he gets the ball he's like a 6ft Silva with the way his balance and poise is held, arms at the side wrists/hands outwardly limp as if he's balancing himself to do some trickery. If he was strong and direct and would put his foot through the ball like he should have with that chance yesterday he'd be a bloody handful in this league but he can't and he's not.

To be fair, I think he is a natural goalscorer and unlike both Tevez and Aguero who have 20 chances per game and miss 19 of them, Dzeko is lethal in front of goal.

He needs to be played in the correct role/position and - also - needs to get his finger out and stop falling over like a baby. But he is a 30 goal a season striker if his skills fit the team's style of play. Unfortunately for Edin, under Mancini we have played with no pace and no width for 3 seasons now, intricate passes through the middle.

Even when we did have a winger that we played occasionally (Adam Johnson), we played him on the wrong side so he couldn't get quality crosses in. The style of play favoured by Mancini was never going to suit Edin and frankly I don't know why we bought him.

I respect your opinion chippy but I feel the opposite and would argue I doubt Dzeko would ever score 30 goals in one season let alone per season in any team in the Premier. I just don't think he's strong enough over 38 games.

 

[Bluearmy]

The premier league is too physical for Dzeko. There were times yesterday when all he needed to do was bulldoze his way to an open goal by holding off a defender and he can't do it, never has been his game here. When he gets the ball he's like a 6ft Silva with the way his balance and poise is held, arms at the side wrists/hands outwardly limp as if he's balancing himself to do some trickery. If he was strong and direct and would put his foot through the ball like he should have with that chance yesterday he'd be a bloody handful in this league but he can't and he's not.

To be fair, I think he is a natural goalscorer and unlike both Tevez and Aguero who have 20 chances per game and miss 19 of them, Dzeko is lethal in front of goal.

He needs to be played in the correct role/position and - also - needs to get his finger out and stop falling over like a baby. But he is a 30 goal a season striker if his skills fit the team's style of play. Unfortunately for Edin, under Mancini we have played with no pace and no width for 3 seasons now, intricate passes through the middle.

Even when we did have a winger that we played occasionally (Adam Johnson), we played him on the wrong side so he couldn't get quality crosses in. The style of play favoured by Mancini was never going to suit Edin and frankly I don't know why we bought him.

I respect your opinion chippy but I feel the opposite and would argue I doubt Dzeko would ever score 30 goals in one season let alone per season in any team in the Premier. I just don't think he's strong enough over 38 games.

I would have my worries aswell, but go back to Spuds away last year. We got in behind them countless times, crossed it and guess what, Dzeko got a hatrick from them.. He then had loads of confidence and scored a screamer late on.... Think the week after he was dropped/rested and we never went back to playing like this... He stands no chance getting there the way we play at present. Question has to be asked why we ever bought him, if we had no intention of playing to his strengths....

 

[Blue2112]

To be fair, I think he is a natural goalscorer and unlike both Tevez and Aguero who have 20 chances per game and miss 19 of them, Dzeko is lethal in front of goal.

He needs to be played in the correct role/position and - also - needs to get his finger out and stop falling over like a baby. But he is a 30 goal a season striker if his skills fit the team's style of play. Unfortunately for Edin, under Mancini we have played with no pace and no width for 3 seasons now, intricate passes through the middle.

Even when we did have a winger that we played occasionally (Adam Johnson), we played him on the wrong side so he couldn't get quality crosses in. The style of play favoured by Mancini was never going to suit Edin and frankly I don't know why we bought him.

I respect your opinion chippy but I feel the opposite and would argue I doubt Dzeko would ever score 30 goals in one season let alone per season in any team in the Premier. I just don't think he's strong enough over 38 games.

I would have my worries aswell, but go back to Spuds away last year. We got in behind them countless times, crossed it and guess what, Dzeko got a hatrick from them.. He then had loads of confidence and scored a screamer late on.... Think the week after he was dropped/rested and we never went back to playing like this... He stands no chance getting there the way we play at present. Question has to be asked why we ever bought him, if we had no intention of playing to his strengths....

I agree with that and he should never have been dropped at the time. I think its more than safe to say he and Mancini do not get on and I wish him nothing but success wherever he ends up but Mancini's style of management is not based on arm around shoulders. You either get on board with him and are mentally strong enough to accept for Mancini your there to do a job, earn good money and put in performances week in week out and the cohesion and rapport will build between the players and fans and yes probably to a lesser degree with Mancini but that's his style.

 

[Blue&Brave]

What annoys me is that some people think that Mancini is irreplacable and as soon as anyone express their opionion about him they get attacked, I think it's weak to comment without logic by just insulting people.

Everybody is replacable and there will allways be someone better, if we can upgrade our player squad then we for sure can upgrade our manager aswell, everytime the team wins it's seems to be because of Mancini, I really think that this squad would win at the same rate with basically any manager in the seat because we win our matches with talent and nothing else, just look at our buid-up play its pure individual performances.

Personally if Dzeko goes I would like to see the team bring someone like Mario Gotze in, I think he would fit much better than overrated and overpriced Cavani who is basically a Dzeko in form. We can get several top players for the same amount of Cavani. Don't forget that he was just a benchplayer in Palermo 2 seasons ago...