The ‘Proper’ Treble

How many of the Treble teams were champions the previous season?

If I'm not mistaken, only Bayern (2020) and Inter (2010) were champions. Barca, United and Bayern (2013) weren't.

So, City are the only team in the top 2 leagues to win the Treble while defending the league title.
 
Also I’m sure in 1999 there were a lot of Micky mouse teams in the competition just to make up the numbers. Like Montpellier
 
I think there are many enjoyable aspects to out second treble. in particular this was a perfect V sign to the establishment. For a start we entered the CL as champions and in successive knock out rounds we eliminated Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and inter, the conquerors of AC Milan - the two who have won the cup more than any others and the conquerors of the third. Before there are any howls from Merseyside we eliminated them in the Carabao cup and hammerd them in the league at the Etihad. In the FA cup we eliminated those kings of financial prudence, Arsenal as well as Chelsea and outplayed the rags in the final. In the league it was curtains again for Arsenal (8 points clear at one point), who were runners up, and Manchester United, a long way back in third. In sum, we showed that the days of the old elite are over and we are now et the very top.
 
Did yers beat every team on way to title?? I know Everton in 1970 and 85 one of only a few team to do so.
 
I thought the odds were pretty close, what where they?
Arsenal (Viera, Bergkamp, Overmars, Anelka) were PL champions, and they were favourites for the title and the fa cup. It was deffo a 50/50 match up and the game went to a replay. United were underdogs in the quarter finals against Barcelona (Rivaldo, Figo, Kluivert) and the semi final against Juventus (Zidane, Del Piero, Davids, Conte) and then in the final against Bayern Munich. (Matthaus, Effenberg, Janker, Kuffour, Oliver Kahn...

United were the underdogs in most of those games but went on to win them against all odds, and with local boys like Scholes, Giggs, Gary Nevile, Phil Neville, Wes Brown, Nicky Butt and Beckham who joined on his 14th birthday.

Very very different achievements in comparison.

City coasted along in 3rd gear. Nobody else laid a glove or even came close. Gave Arsenal a headstart, selling them Jesus and Zinchenko, and Pep's assistant manager. And then batted them away when it mattered. It was a cakewalk.
 
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Arsenal (Viera, Bergkamp, Overmars, Anelka) were PL champions, and they were favourites for the title and the fa cup. It was deffo a 50/50 match up and the game went to a replay. United were underdogs in the quarter finals against Barcelona (Rivaldo, Figo, Kluivert) and the semi final against Juventus (Zidane, Del Piero, Davids, Conte) and then in the final against Bayern Munich. (Matthaus, Effenberg, Janker, Kuffour, Oliver Kahn...

United were the underdogs in most of those games but went on to win them against all odds, and with local boys like Scholes, Giggs, Gary Nevile, Phil Neville, Wes Brown, Nicky Butt and Beckham who joined on his 14th birthday.

Very very different achievements in comparison.

City coasted along in 3rd gear. Nobody else laid a glove or even came close. You even gave Arsenal a headstart, selling them Jesus and Zinchenko, and Pep's assistant manager. And then batted them away when it mattered. It was a cakewalk.

Arsenal had great players but didn't have a great team in 98/99. Liverpool had great players, but were wank in 22/23, right? Arsenal won only 78 pts, this tells you everything you need to know how great they were. At that time the PL was generally worse than Serie A and La Liga. To win only 78/79 pts in the 3rd/4th best league in Europe is nothing special really.

United weren't favourites in the CL for a reason. They weren't brilliant, that's why they weren't favourites. They played vs Inter and Juventus before the final. Inter finished 8th in Serie A that season, and Juve 7th. So much for the quality of their European opponents. They had big names in their teams, but the teams weren't great. Just like Liverpool 22/23.
 
That second leg when the rags got through against Inter....... I was more upset about Rod Hull the day after than the result. He died falling from the roof of his house adjusting his TV antenna trying to get a decent reception for that match.

But yep .... we beat them something like 11-3 on those stats up there!. Will check again later.
 

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