The Agenda (Merged)

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r.soleofsalford said:
Gaudion M said:
Len Rum said:
Nope, nothing to do with dicks out, just a level playing field in the way we are reported on by the media.

I think we got used to a lot of media support when we were the plucky little underdog and the team that always did it the hard way. That's gone now as we are setting the standard and people will try to knock us. The rags had it for years, lets deal with it better than they did!




"the rags had it for years" like bollocks they did. they had their cocks suck for twenty odd years to my knowledge
Even before football began (according to Sky) the rags have had an easy ride.
 
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Len Rum said:
Gaudion M said:
Len Rum said:
Nope, nothing to do with dicks out, just a level playing field in the way we are reported on by the media.

I think we got used to a lot of media support when we were the plucky little underdog and the team that always did it the hard way. That's gone now as we are setting the standard and people will try to knock us. The rags had it for years, lets deal with it better than they did!
We don't get knocked because of us 'setting the standard' ( not sure what you mean by that), we get knocked because of the money thing,who are owners are, that we don't have many British players/managers and that we upset the established order in which the interests of the media were very much tied up.
The Rags did not have a negative media campaign against them other than a suggestion that they got the odd 'dodgy' penalty awarded or such like.

is it a racial thing maybe?
 
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Len Rum said:
mcfc1632 said:
There seem to be a lot of posts seeking to prove/state that there is no agenda - when there seems to be - at least through my blue-tinted paranoid specs - almost daily occurrences of flagrant bias.

But for me the 'issue' is with the word 'agenda'. Agenda infers coordinated/managed/targeted - in the way that FFPR was introduced - where in fact for me there is just so much institutionalised bias in rag loving media organisations.

Also individuals in the media have a deep rooted love of the old guard and therefore a dislike of us which borders on hatred - they cannot report/write objectively. We see it all the time on Sunday supplement - remember the one that looks like a vampire in drag for who the word City was like a bath in holy water......

So is there an orchestrated agenda? - maybe not. Are there widespread and daily examples of bias ranging from mild to extreme? (IMO) certainly - so much so that it feels like an agenda sometimes.
"Agenda 'infers' coordinated/managed/targeted" - no it doesn't. It could involve these elements but it doesn't have to.
Collusion,collaboration or conspiracy( in the case of illegal or harmful intent) would be the correct expressions to describe what you're getting at . An agenda does not have to involve any of these.

Think we are saying the same thing?

I doubt many would argue that we do see many examples of institutional and individual bias - but use of the word agenda seems to cause posters to split into camps.

Without getting into semantics I think that it is the element of 'orchestrating' inferred by the word agenda that posters debate, e.g. a synonym in the Oxford is "The underlying intentions or motives of a particular person or group:"

I think that we need a new generation to come into the media - one used to seeing City successful before the bias starts to fade - we might become the next media darlings? - it has not taken Chelsea long
 
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The general media summary was that we struggled first half. Nothing about 600+ passes or anything.
 
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john@staustell said:
The general media summary was that we struggled first half. Nothing about 600+ passes or anything.

According to Mr Savage (and the anti-City journalist Rory Smith) on MOTD2 Extra Palace should have been 3 up at half time on City and we have a poor defense and the offside goal that was not offside for Palace would have changed the game, just like when Palace were 3-0 down v Liverpool last year and came back to 3-3, apparently Palace would have gone on to draw at least if the goal had been allowed to stand. Oh and Kompany has had a poor season thus far and Mangala is rubbish.

Oh, and the foul mouthed Warnock is still moaning about it now.

From the media, apparently City, and in particular our defenders, are always terrible if we allow the opposition any chances\shots on goal and we ourselves do not score at least 5 per game.
 
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City1974 said:
john@staustell said:
The general media summary was that we struggled first half. Nothing about 600+ passes or anything.

According to Mr Savage (and the anti-City journalist Rory Smith) on MOTD2 Extra Palace should have been 3 up at half time on City and we have a poor defense.
Is that the same defence that's conceded one goal in approaching 600 minutes of football? These insanely thick dullards are beyond a joke sometimes.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
City1974 said:
john@staustell said:
The general media summary was that we struggled first half. Nothing about 600+ passes or anything.

According to Mr Savage (and the anti-City journalist Rory Smith) on MOTD2 Extra Palace should have been 3 up at half time on City and we have a poor defense.
Is that the same defence that's conceded one goal in approaching 600 minutes of football? These insanely thick dullards are beyond a joke sometimes.

The same ones who were extolling Chelsea 3 weeks ago as odds on Champions?

That John Cross who comes on Talksport does make me chuckle on the way into work.
 
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City1974 said:
john@staustell said:
The general media summary was that we struggled first half. Nothing about 600+ passes or anything.

According to Mr Savage (and the anti-City journalist Rory Smith) on MOTD2 Extra Palace should have been 3 up at half time on City and we have a poor defense and the offside goal that was not offside for Palace would have changed the game, just like when Palace were 3-0 down v Liverpool last year and came back to 3-3, apparently Palace would have gone on to draw at least if the goal had been allowed to stand. Oh and Kompany has had a poor season thus far and Mangala is rubbish.

Oh, and the foul mouthed Warnock is still moaning about it now.

From the media, apparently City, and in particular our defenders, are always terrible if we allow the opposition any chances\shots on goal and we ourselves do not score at least 5 per game.

Someone actually said Kompany has been poor for 2 years now. Can't remember whether that was Savage or the nodding dog next to him.
To be fair Mark Chapman and Keown just shook their heads!
 
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I think most of the hatred is due to the fact that a lot of the ex players were just average journey men who never won nowt and also the older ones are bitter that they never played in today's game,so missed out on a huge pay check.
 
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Ha Ha, Stu's onto it

Anyone who watched Match of the Day on Saturday night might have got wholly the wrong impression of this match

Those of us who sat through an accomplished City performance that was necessarily patient and very inventive, wondered if we had tuned into a parallel universe.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-3-crystal-palace-8328140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ce-8328140</a>
 
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