The Boxing thread

[hilts]

Boxing is dead?

Righttttttttt....

when eubank fought benn everyone i knew watched it and was interested in the outcome, nowadays not many care which is a shame

 

[conormcfc]

Last few Hatton fights? What, you mean Pacquiao and Mayweather, the 2 greatest boxers of this generation?

I'm sorry but you don't have a clue mate.

Ok, I'll rephrase.

Boxing means that you face a bunch f guys who you feel that you can beat, until you pick the weakest champion possible, beat them, then continue to fight weak guys for PPV money.

Eventually, you buck up, fight a good fighter and get knocked clean out, then retire. Or at least try to fight a far superior fighter, and get knocked out by him.

By "the weakest champion possible", I take it you mean Kostya Tszyu? The pound for pound number 2 in the sport when Hatton fought him for the tile? Ok, if you say so.....

And how disgraceful of Ricky to attempt to take on the 2 greatest in the sport. Embarrasing stuff from the hitman.<br /><br />-- 13 Nov 2010, 23:18 --<br /><br />

Last few Hatton fights? What, you mean Pacquiao and Mayweather, the 2 greatest boxers of this generation?

I'm sorry but you don't have a clue mate.

i dont think you can question hattons heart or desire but those fights showed that he was a very average fighter, pacquiao and mayweather are very good but they havent had the opposition to test how great they are, boxing has lost its way which is a shame

Haven't had the opposition? LOL.

Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and he's figting Margarito tonight.

Although I have come down on Mayweather for his choice of opponent in the past, to say he's not been tested is a joke. Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton and Mosley.

Shit comment

 

[hilts]

Ok, I'll rephrase.

Boxing means that you face a bunch f guys who you feel that you can beat, until you pick the weakest champion possible, beat them, then continue to fight weak guys for PPV money.

Eventually, you buck up, fight a good fighter and get knocked clean out, then retire. Or at least try to fight a far superior fighter, and get knocked out by him.

By "the weakest champion possible", I take it you mean Kostya Tszyu? The pound for pound number 2 in the sport when Hatton fought him for the tile? Ok, if you say so.....

And how disgraceful of Ricky to attempt to take on the 2 greatest in the sport. Embarrasing stuff from the hitman.

-- 13 Nov 2010, 23:18 --

i dont think you can question hattons heart or desire but those fights showed that he was a very average fighter, pacquiao and mayweather are very good but they havent had the opposition to test how great they are, boxing has lost its way which is a shame

Haven't had the opposition? LOL.

Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and he's figting Margarito tonight.

Although I have come down on Mayweather for his choice of opponent in the past, to say he's not been tested is a joke. Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton and Mosley.

Shit comment

the fact that most people havent heard of most these guys means either they aint great or no one cares

how many good fighters in their prime did hatton fight and how many did he win?

 

[conormcfc]

the fact that most people havent heard of most these guys means either they aint great or no one cares

how many good fighters in their prime did hatton fight and how many did he win?

Just because people haven't heard of them doesn't mean they aren't great. You've never heard of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley?

Name 1 guy Pacquiao could've fought that he hasn't...

 

[hilts]

the fact that most people havent heard of most these guys means either they aint great or no one cares

how many good fighters in their prime did hatton fight and how many did he win?

Just because people haven't heard of them doesn't mean they aren't great. You've never heard of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley?

Name 1 guy Pacquiao could've fought that he hasn't...

how many great fighters did hatton fight in their prime and win was the question

if i fought tyson who no doubt would knock me out with a jab would that make me good just because i fought him? i watched most of hattons fights i dont remember him beating anyone great in their prime, i could be wrong though

 

[ono]

Boxing is a sport of conmen and shysters.

The last few fights of Haye and Hatton were a fucking disgrace.

Boxing is dead; it has as much similarity as fucking WWE

Bullshit. He took a dive for a million quid

Absolute laughable post.

Hatton's last 'few' fights.....

Jose Luis Castillo
Floyd Mayweather
Juan Lazcano
Paulie Malignaggi
Manny Pacquiao

In what way are they a disgrace?

And to suggest Harrison took a dive? Bollocks. He was stopped on his feet.

 

[conormcfc]

Just because people haven't heard of them doesn't mean they aren't great. You've never heard of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley?

Name 1 guy Pacquiao could've fought that he hasn't...

how many great fighters did hatton fight in their prime and win was the question

if i fought tyson who no doubt would knock me out with a jab would that make me good just because i fought him? i watched most of hattons fights i dont remember him beating anyone great in their prime, i could be wrong though

I never even said Hatton was good, my point was that his fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao shouldn't be labelled a disgrace just because he lost.

For the record, he beat the pound for pound number 2 in Tszyu, an undefeated Urango in his first fight at welterweight and Jose Luis Castillo, a guy who a lot of people believe beat Mayweather.

You originally said Pacquiao had never been really tested, so I ask you again, who else could he have possibly fought to have tested himself?

 

[ono]

how many great fighters did hatton fight in their prime and win was the question

if i fought tyson who no doubt would knock me out with a jab would that make me good just because i fought him? i watched most of hattons fights i dont remember him beating anyone great in their prime, i could be wrong though

I never even said Hatton was good, my point was that his fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao shouldn't be labelled a disgrace just because he lost.

For the record, he beat the pound for pound number 2 in Tszyu, an undefeated Urango in his first fight at welterweight and Jose Luis Castillo, a guy who a lot of people believe beat Mayweather.

You originally said Pacquiao had never been really tested, so I ask you again, who else could he have possibly fought to have tested himself?

He beat Collazo in his first fight at Welterweight, which actually strengthens your argument because Collazo is a much better fighter than Urango.

Castillo definitely beat Mayweather in their first fight. Hatton was also the first to floor Castillo which is a big achievement considering Castillo's opposition.

He's got some good names on his record as Hatton. If anything, he became a much better fighter than his talent should have allowed him.

I don't think he disgraced himself against Mayweather, and i think he just had a horrible gameplan against Pacquiao. I don't think he could have beaten him, but performed quite stupidly.

Excited for later on mate?

 

[conormcfc]

I never even said Hatton was good, my point was that his fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao shouldn't be labelled a disgrace just because he lost.

For the record, he beat the pound for pound number 2 in Tszyu, an undefeated Urango in his first fight at welterweight and Jose Luis Castillo, a guy who a lot of people believe beat Mayweather.

You originally said Pacquiao had never been really tested, so I ask you again, who else could he have possibly fought to have tested himself?

He beat Collazo in his first fight at Welterweight, which actually strengthens your argument because Collazo is a much better fighter than Urango.

Castillo definitely beat Mayweather in their first fight. Hatton was also the first to floor Castillo which is a big achievement considering Castillo's opposition.

He's got some good names on his record as Hatton. If anything, he became a much better fighter than his talent should have allowed him.

I don't think he disgraced himself against Mayweather, and i think he just had a horrible gameplan against Pacquiao. I don't think he could have beaten him, but performed quite stupidly.

Excited for later on mate?

I always get Collazo and Urango mixed up, he fought them back to back but I always get the order mixed up.

Can't wait for tonight pal, tbh anything to take my mind off the dross that was Haye/Audley. There's always a load of boxing know it-alls that come on here spouting shit after a British guy fights.

Looking forward to seeing Guillermo Rigondeaux on the undercard as well, he's only had a few proffesional fights so far but I can remember watching him in the olympics a few years ago, class boxer. He's in his 30's already though I think so he needs to get on with it if he's gonna make an impact.

I saw that Pac weighed in at 144. That makes me like Marg's chances a bit more tbh, he could have a big strength advantage coming into this. I'm still expecting a Pac UD, but it could be a lot closer than I originally expected.

They're showing all 4 24/7 episodes on Sky now btw, I'm not sure the 4th one's even aired yet.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Far too many people base their opinions on "greatness" purely on how much the fighter has been marketed by who and where...

Nobody has heard of you? this must mean your shit then.

everybody knows you? wow your the best fighter ever.

This for me is one of the main reasons I went off boxing, I watch the odd fights but I don't follow it anymore.

You have never lost a fight? wow you must be the best fighter to ever grace the ring.

You have sky sports backing you with a decent promoter? you must be the best fighter ever.

I don't follow all that shit, loads of people disrespected Harrison tonight, people who have never even had a pro fight, the guy was shook, anyone who has fought will know this. Once your head goes it all goes.

No sport is perfect but this for me is why i dislike Boxing, too much tactic