The Boxing thread

[bluemc1]

Great résumés don't win you fights though do they.

But how do you define "the greatest"? If their CV is part of that equation - and that is a fair argument - then I agree Fury has a long way to go.

Sure all the names you mention would be in with a shot against Fury, but would they beat him? Who knows. It's open to debate IMO and in that sense then whether Fury is the best fighter of all time is also open to debate.

yep in mythical matchups it’s just down to opinions who’s the best ever and with these super sized heavyweights you also have to a little make it P4P

if you pick a 14 1/2 stone, 5ft 10in Marciano up from the 50s and put him in the ring with a 6ft 7in Vlad Klitscho does he win ? Probably not, but Marciano will always be named in most people’s top 10

all about opinions but for me you can’t look beyond Ali. 1967 Ali that beat Cleveland Williams is on another planet

the man fought for 20 years against some of the greatest and hardest hitting heavyweights and was never knocked out, 20 years against fighters of that level and not one lucky punch knockout against him, he was just simply The Greatest

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Awesome result,Tyson is a top lad and the sport is all the better for having him around.

We can't ignore the fact he is now ranked amongst the greats.

Awesome Result yes, Top lad? no hes a drug cheat and a rag to boot. The sport is better with having him arround? Sure hes probably the best out there at the moment, but hes at the bottom of a long list of much better all time heavyweights. Not even undisputed. Holding one of four belts.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Tried to get back to sleep but not a prayer, far too much adrenaline in my body after watching that fight.

One of the greatest fights I’ve ever seen, fantastic.

Fury majestic as usual, and fair fucks to Wilder for lasting that long, although I don’t think he should fight again after the punishment he has taken in his last 2 fights, that’s the kind of shit that leaves lasting scars.

Fury deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the greatest of them all, always hard though to say who would have won those fights with Ali and Iron Mike so no point bothering. One thing for sure though he‘d have given them all a battle.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Great résumés don't win you fights though do they.

But how do you define "the greatest"? If their CV is part of that equation - and that is a fair argument - then I agree Fury has a long way to go.

Sure all the names you mention would be in with a shot against Fury, but would they beat him? Who knows. It's open to debate IMO and in that sense then whether Fury is the best fighter of all time is also open to debate.

Lewis was a far better boxer than Fury. You also really need to watch some Fraiser, Forman, Tyson and Ali fights if you think Fury is a contender for GOAT. Hes hasnt even beaten all those is his division yet.

 

[bluemc1]

If Fury fights Usyk next and the bookies have it remotely close I’ll be putting a good lump on Fury, I think he wins it without much trouble

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Anywhere got a good quality replay?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

yep in mythical matchups it’s just down to opinions who’s the best ever and with these super sized heavyweights you also have to a little make it P4P

if you pick a 14 1/2 stone, 5ft 10in Marciano up from the 50s and put him in the ring with a 6ft 7in Vlad Klitscho does he win ? Probably not, but Marciano will always be named in most people’s top 10

all about opinions but for me you can’t look beyond Ali. 1967 Ali that beat Cleveland Williams is on another planet

the man fought for 20 years against some of the greatest and hardest hitting heavyweights and was never knocked out, 20 years against fighters of that level and not one lucky punch knockout against him, he was just simply The Greatest

And he had 4 years of his prime lost for his draft refusal. Foreman in his prime would also have demolished Fury. So would Fraiser, much smaller than Fury but much quicker and had a devasting hook. In those days there was ONE heavyweight champion and they fought everyone and fought often. Not four titles and boxers fighting once every 18mths that seems to be common place the last 20years. The sport has been ruined by money.

 

[adelaideblue]

Lewis was a far better boxer than Fury. You also really need to watch some Fraiser, Forman, Tyson and Ali fights if you think Fury is a contender for GOAT. Hes hasnt even beaten all those is his division yet.

That’s why it’s hard to compare generations, Ali 6/3 wouldnt survive against the big boys nowadays. Like watching the old football games, the defending / technique was shocking but all a bit relative.

 

[Paul1970]

Good fight but now I want to see Tyson fury fight someone else has for the last few years as fought wilder 3 times cotto walin and some other guy . Tbh apart from wilders right hand he is not that good and usyk would destroy wilder easily . Fury usyk is the one now .

 

[hammocity]

Been saying it for ages these rematches are daft, by rights it should be Usk v Fury

I’m no expert but would agree, surely the various organisations should be dictating who fights who on a merit basis when it comes to Championship bouts. Allowing 2/3 fight deals is ridiculous. They never did it in the past, a boxer lost a fight, regrouped, slipped down the challenge ladder but if good enough came back for a second attempt.