The Boxing thread

Free Ian Brown said:
Luddite here - what's IPTV and where do I get it?
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Find Mustard Entertainment on Twitter and follow them. Once they follow back, you will be able to send them a message.

Basically, it's similar to Kodi, but more reliable and easy to navigate. I've had it nearly 2 months now and it's been pretty much faultless. If HD TV quality is a 10, this is a 9.5, and that's on a 60inch tv. On a smaller TV, I don't think you would even tell the difference.

You need an Amazon Firestick to load it on to.

Best 70 quid I've ever spent to be honest.
 
Metalartin said:
This guy clearly isn't Wilder's biggest fan and says some harsh things but he makes some great points that had me chuckling.
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Wilder is a bit of a joke tbh. After 18 fights, Joshua faced Klitschko. In Wilder's 18th fight, he faced a guy who lost to Mark De Mori. De Mori is the joke who David Haye beat inside a minute on his comeback fight on Dave.

Wilder has no plans to fight Joshua yet. He and his promoter publicly agreed to Hearn's offer of $15m in the summer but then stalled on signing it because they were waiting for the WBA to step in and demand the Povetkin fight. They wanted to create a scenario where it looked like they wanted the fight and Hearn/Joshua didn't. So once the WBA did step in, Hearn publicly declared that the offer was still on the table for an April fight and that he would pay Wilder $5m (twice his highest ever payday) for a "tickover" fight against any top 15 WBC ranked fighter. Wilder then changed his demands to 50/50. And now has upped them to 60/40. He's a joke.
 
ono said:
Hearn publicly declared that the offer was still on the table for an April fight and that he would pay Wilder $5m (twice his highest ever payday) for a "tickover" fight against any top 15 WBC ranked fighter. Wilder then changed his demands to 50/50. And now has upped them to 60/40. He's a joke.
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I think Hearn was ’low-balling’ Wilder with that offer. It would not have been 60-40 in Joshua favour more like 75-25 which doesn’t make sense.
 
Southern said:
I think Hearn was ’low-balling’ Wilder with that offer. It would not have been 60-40 in Joshua favour more like 75-25 which doesn’t make sense.
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I strongly disagree. It was around 6x his highest ever pay day. It was for a UK fight, which probably generated about $50m in the UK (based off a sell-out at Wembley and it breaking the UK PPV record of 1.6m). Once you factor in the undercard, site fees, running costs, promoter fees, sanctioning fees etc, you're left with a fair bit less. Hearn said at the time that it was closer to 33% and I'd agree with that. Regardless, Wilder and Finkel accepted the money. Wilder's total career earnings are £15m, so I can't get my head round $15m for 1 fight being "lowball". In boxing, you earn what you're worth as a commodity.

As a commodity, Wilder can't even sell out the Barclay's Centre in Brooklyn (capacity less than 20k). Joshua gets more PPV buys in the UK than Wilder gets views in the US. He's responsible for about 90% of the revenue/financial interest in the fight. If they offered Wilder closer to $20m, Joshua would be entering a weird scenario where he is basically coming away with the same money as he would for a keep busy fight.

I think people are also forgetting that Wilder would have being hugely rewarded on a sporting level. Bearing in mind Wilder has only faced 1 independently top 10 guy (and he was deemed medically unfit to fight on the night of the fight - Charles Martin was at the arena as a 'stand-in'). As WBC champion he has defended against WBC ranked #14, #12, #8, #8, #unranked and then Ortiz (see above).

He would have had the opportunity to become undisputed world champion, and with that, probably the biggest boxing star in the world. He also had 50/50 split on a US rematch should he win (which he no doubt believes he will/would).

So, all in all, I can't agree with any notion that the offer was 'low-ball'.
 
They are all calling out AJ from behind the parapet wall at the moment, Wilder is a joke and Fury isn't even on that level, i long for the day when the Champion has to fight the No1 ranked challenger in whatever association the belt is held, I know its more complicated than that these days but too many so called Champions are fighting bums, while top ranked fighters are frozen out because they are considered too dangerous.
 
Blue Til Death said:
They are all calling out AJ from behind the parapet wall at the moment, Wilder is a joke and Fury isn't even on that level, i long for the day when the Champion has to fight the No1 ranked challenger in whatever association the belt is held, I know its more complicated than that these days but too many so called Champions are fighting bums, while top ranked fighters are frozen out because they are considered too dangerous.
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Not sure if Ive missed your point here but Joshua just beat his WBA mandatory, will probably face his WBO mandatory in Whyte in April and will then have to deal with Pulev for the IBF.
 
Who the fuck at Sky / Eddie Hearn think that Dillian Whyte v Del Chisora is a PPV card. Fuck me Sky and some of the uk shows now are all ppv. You got Bellew fight next week against Usyk now i can see why thats PPV as it is a PPV fight for me Usyk the best cruiserweight in the world against Bellew i can see why it is. As for Whyte next fight on PPV it is competing with the Frampton v Warrington fight so will the casual fans tune in to whyte or watch a proper world title fight. The Whyte card needs a few title fights on it maybe Mundo Smith fighting on it.
 
leighton said:
Who the fuck at Sky / Eddie Hearn think that Dillian Whyte v Del Chisora is a PPV card. Fuck me Sky and some of the uk shows now are all ppv. You got Bellew fight next week against Usyk now i can see why thats PPV as it is a PPV fight for me Usyk the best cruiserweight in the world against Bellew i can see why it is. As for Whyte next fight on PPV it is competing with the Frampton v Warrington fight so will the casual fans tune in to whyte or watch a proper world title fight. The Whyte card needs a few title fights on it maybe Mundo Smith fighting on it.
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Is that this weekend ?
 
leighton said:
Who the fuck at Sky / Eddie Hearn think that Dillian Whyte v Del Chisora is a PPV card. Fuck me Sky and some of the uk shows now are all ppv. You got Bellew fight next week against Usyk now i can see why thats PPV as it is a PPV fight for me Usyk the best cruiserweight in the world against Bellew i can see why it is. As for Whyte next fight on PPV it is competing with the Frampton v Warrington fight so will the casual fans tune in to whyte or watch a proper world title fight. The Whyte card needs a few title fights on it maybe Mundo Smith fighting on it.
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Hearn reckons they'll do 4 x the number of ppv sales than the Frampton fight. To be fair the last fight was a cracker and the undercard will be stacked. I'll be watching both.
 
Usyk says he’s a City fan as he’s friends with Zinchenko. Good on him.

He’s going to outclass the delusional horribly overmatched bellew - should be an enjoyable fight
 
Have you seen the state of the undercard this weekend? £20 and to make your money back you would need to stake £160 on Usyk at 1/8. Ridiculous.
 
Hearn you to stack the undercard of PPV shows with proper 50/50 match ups. It made it easier to stump up when the main event wasn't really PPV worthy.

He's not done that for a long time now.

I hope this and his forthcoming events flop commercially so he's forced to rethink the model.
 
I watched the press conference earlier and i was impressed by Bellew.He was very respectful of his opponent and he displayed both humility and class,traits i previously hadn't associated with him.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I watched the press conference earlier and i was impressed by Bellew.He was very respectful of his opponent and he displayed both humility and class,traits i previously hadn't associated with him.
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I keep changing my mind about him. Used to think he was a complete tit but has shown moments of being reasonably inoffensive.
 
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