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I think AJ has been a bit exposed today, this guy is a complete Hype job (business man)

People say Wilder was dodging the fight with him but it was clearly the other way around.

I think it will be an uphill struggle for him now and the mind games will start with Fury and Wilder

Must admit I'm a bit shocked at the result today but I've never been on this hype thing with Joshua, he's a mediocre boxer when you look at it at face value.

Always go back to the generation thing but the likes of Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson etc.. Would've wiped the floor with this guy IMO
 
80s Shorts said:
Looked like a big fat lump of lard to me. There will be a rematch in the UK. Hearn and his cronies will make millions again.. He will get the belts back and the circus will continue.
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He IS a big fat lump. So what?

Not really sure what your last couple of points are? That result has sent shockwaves through the sport not because of the result itself but because of the amount of millions that could potentially cost lots of people. Everyone will be hoping he wins the rematch, including Wilder & Fury because if he loses the 'circus' will be closed.
 
Jeezus "hype job".... "exposed". Casuals talk... Wilder and Fury are equally beatable and they will take losses if they face AJ in my book(Fury has always had the best chance).

Tonight was not the typical Joshua and he will prove it in the rematch for my book. Just as Fury would have schooled Wilder at 100%.

Every keen boxing fan saw Wilder was bailed out by the ref against Ortiz, anyone who even after today rates the hype job that is Wilder above AJ, explain to me why the doctor needed to look at Wilder after being knocked down by an over the hill Ortiz? When you have you EVER seen that before in a HW title fight? That was not normal... yes he recovered(not a temple shot though) and won but should he have been afforded that? He lost to a fat out of shape Fury too for my money.

If Fury and Wilder dont fight AJ if he beats Ruiz in the rematch something is rotten.
 
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It is all about business. Joshua has made the rematch a monumental fight now to put himself back as the no.1.

He was in danger of being left behind after failing to get the fight with Wilder.
 
supercity88 said:
It is all about business. Joshua has made the rematch a monumental fight now to put himself back as the no.1.

He was in danger of being left behind after failing to get the fight with Wilder.
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AJ (before tonight) could have sold 80,000 tickets and made tens of millions fighting my postman. What part of losing 4 belts and looking very vulnerable do you think was good for business?

And left behind? Matchroom have Usyk, Whyte, parker, Gassiev, Hunter.

The whole Wilder / Joshua saga not being made was always risking something like this happening. If Ruiz wins the rematch they've all lost millions.
 
He got a Mexican wrap!!!! Right round the fucking kisser?? Got to say when I saw the size of him I imagined that monty python sketch, where he ran around the auditorium with the other guy chasing him and the other chap had a cardiac arrest. That’s the only way AJ would have won” fury/ wilder would murder him
 
Indaparkside said:
He got a Mexican wrap!!!! Right round the fucking kisser?? Got to say when I saw the size of him I imagined that monty python sketch, where he ran around the auditorium with the other guy chasing him and the other chap had a cardiac arrest. That’s the only way AJ would have won” fury/ wilder would murder him
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I’ve said it for ages this guy has world class business men / marketing around him that have created an absolute money making machine. Every brand and every celebrity wanted a piece of him. The fat Jamie Redknapp puppet master who manages him knew fine well if he stepped in with Wilder and especially Tyson Fury it all comes to an end and has avoided them like the plague.

Also why did AJ start talking like a roadman / swearing in his post fight press conference? Bizarre!
 
Kompany Car said:
If the @jimharri link doesn’t work (didn’t for me) it’s also here...
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Cheers fella; that link I posted earlier isn't working for me either now;

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Odd, seeing as I watched it earlier.
 
Rumours ( from Steve Bunce) he’s been under the weather for a couple of weeks and didn’t want to make excuses. Might explain the lethargy but probably bullshit.

It makes Hearn’s avoidance of the real fights look stupid. Career could be in tatters and he’d have a punchers chance against anyone.
 
Cheers highlights.

Round 3 was turning point, Joshua got a couple of huge hits - totally lost his composure and mentality- Ruiz was consistent with his guard and punches whilst also taking some big hits himself. Thought that was good entertaining fight, Ruiz won fair and square. Not sure how people can say that was thrown.
 
City Raider said:
Rumours ( from Steve Bunce) he’s been under the weather for a couple of weeks and didn’t want to make excuses. Might explain the lethargy but probably bullshit.

It makes Hearn’s avoidance of the real fights look stupid. Career could be in tatters and he’d have a punchers chance against anyone.
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The whole thing is a shambes mate not just from the Hearn side. Wilder taking on Ortiz again, Fury fighting Schwartz. We'll miss fights that we all wanted to see.

FWIW I've felt Joshua is a different fighter after the Klitchko fight, yeah he won but that fight took something from him. I won't say it made him gunshy, but I think it made him massively cautious.

The only thing I care about in the HW division now is Whyte getting his dues.
 
AJ has been the most overrated boxer I can think of.

He’s very marketable and Sky have been up his arse since he properly broke on to the scene, like they do with Liverpool.

Fair play to him for making so much money out of it but let’s be serious, he’s not as good as Fury.

Dodging the big fights has spectacularly backfired.
 
I'm not buying the 'AJ wasn't himself' line that's being spun by a lot of people after last night. From what I saw, it was fairly uneventful early doors then he unleashes a fairly typical AJ barrage to floor Ruiz, and then got clipped himself when he went in for the finish. Problem AJ has is more or less every time he gets hit and hurt, it takes him an age to recover. He was stiff for several rounds after Whyte rocked him, he was stiff for several rounds when Klitschko decked him, and exactly the same last night. This time though Ruiz did not let him get away with that.
He's a good fighter but grossly overhyped, which unfortunately happens a lot these days. When on the front foot he does special but there have been more than enough examples of him being rocked and looking terribly uncomfortable on the back foot for that aura about him to have been significantly damaged after last night. A rematch could easily go the same way but equally I can see AJ being more switched on than ever and dispatching this guy in 1 or 2 rounds. He seems levelheaded enough to view defeat as a learning experience rather than a devastating career blow. I think he'll come back stronger.
 
There was definitely something wrong him, either mentally or physically or both.

Even the ring walk and him stood waiting he looked different, he was pissing about with his shorts, his gumshield looked like it was too big for his mouth, he looked so uncomfortable from the off.

I actually thought he was throwing the fight at one point as he went down far too easy. I mean he was fighting with all due respect to Ruiz a nobody and he got put on the seat of his pants.

If UEFA was in charge of boxing I'd have said this fight was bent and fixed.

Joshua was smiling and acting like nothing had happened post fight, I would be sat in the corner absolutely devoed if I'd just lost all my belts not only in the manner I did but to a replacement guy.

Very suspicious to me this fight.
 
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