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That’s a fair point.

I think they are a bit torn. Yes he’s an idiot - he’s done plenty wrong and some stuff right - but here is also the guy they see that tore down the red wall - and was seen to cut across political tribalism as London mayor. So they see him as an asset in that regard. My guess is they are waiting for the may elections and if the Tories flop he’s done for, if they don’t then the Tory MPs will think voters aren’t really politically engaged or give a shit enough for his many flaws to actually matter.

Where I would pay credit is to those that have spoken out against Johnson - principles above their political career - that’s where I would be looking for my next leader if I was a card carrying Tory and had a say in the matter.
I just wonder whether those speaking out are principled or have an eye on a better chance in their careers with a different face at the dispatch box? Major is the latest to have a pop. He wasn't the most memorable PM of post-war years - a case of one deadbeat calling out another deadbeat. But, hey ho, that's politics!
 
And you’ve failed to mention a single Labour MP who also gets paid for speaking? Are you paid by Labour or something to be some sort of keyboard activist? I think we need a register of members interest on here!! ;)
Metalblue. other than making me feel better I get no reward for my posts. My data was from an internet article and perhaps I should have checked the source more thoroughly. That said my viewpoint remains. I hate this deceitful, conniving, self serving government as much as I’ve hated others who over my lifetime have lost sight of what they are in power to do.

I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country. It wont stop me from voting Independent in the Locals and tactically in the full election.

P.S. sorry if I offended. I enjoy this forum and don’t come on to stir the shit.
 
I just wonder whether those speaking out are principled or have an eye on a better chance in their careers with a different face at the dispatch box? Major is the latest to have a pop. He wasn't the most memorable PM of post-war years - a case of one deadbeat calling out another deadbeat. But, hey ho, that's politics!

I was thinking more of the likes of Douglas Ross. I rather like him in any case so maybe I’m a bit biased.

Major was dull as dishwater, he wasn’t necessarily a bad prime minister but just boring so I can’t really remember anything he said apart from back to basics, party boy Johnson is anything but dull. Majors only high horse is his problems were from the back benches.
 
Metalblue. other than making me feel better I get no reward for my posts. My data was from an internet article and perhaps I should have checked the source more thoroughly. That said my viewpoint remains. I hate this deceitful, conniving, self serving government as much as I’ve hated others who over my lifetime have lost sight of what they are in power to do.

I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country. It wont stop me from voting Independent in the Locals and tactically in the full election.

P.S. sorry if I offended. I enjoy this forum and don’t come on to stir the shit.

The source was a very valid one to be fair! Not sure why anyone would think there would be any Labour MPs on a list of those getting paid thousands for speeches about Brexit….
 
Metalblue. other than making me feel better I get no reward for my posts. My data was from an internet article and perhaps I should have checked the source more thoroughly. That said my viewpoint remains. I hate this deceitful, conniving, self serving government as much as I’ve hated others who over my lifetime have lost sight of what they are in power to do.

I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country. It wont stop me from voting Independent in the Locals and tactically in the full election.

P.S. sorry if I offended. I enjoy this forum and don’t come on to stir the shit.

No worries mate and you certainly didn’t offend me. If I got offended by your post I’m on the wrong forum!! Sorry if my winking face was not in the right place.

Although I quite like the idea of us having to members interested outside of city. I’m metalblue and I like dwarf porn and kittens. Not on the same video…sorry Kurt Zouma
 
The source was a very valid one to be fair! Not sure why anyone would think there would be any Labour MPs on a list of those getting paid thousands for speeches about Brexit….

In mitigation I missed the part that it was about Brexit only. The defence withdraws its wholly ill prepared case against the prosecution
 
I just wonder whether those speaking out are principled or have an eye on a better chance in their careers with a different face at the dispatch box? Major is the latest to have a pop. He wasn't the most memorable PM of post-war years - a case of one deadbeat calling out another deadbeat. But, hey ho, that's politics!
So we are being run by deadbeat's, we'll I never.
 

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