The Conservative Party

BigJoe#1 said:
I don't believe anyone is heading in that direction. More like they're away from what we have in power right now.... problem is there is nowhere to go. They are ALL clowns and duplicitous charlatans, every fuckin one of them!
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You don’t think some of the uks population are lurching to the right?
 
With the budget, Labour have now moved the country further to the left, yet with their choice the Conservatives now move the party much further to the right. Badenoch can now espouse a host of fanciful policies that will appeal to some but which will never see the inside of a ministerial box. The political map is set for the next four years, so the more interesting question, for me, will be what direction the country chooses to travel in 2029.
 
Gabriel said:
With the budget, Labour have now moved the country further to the left, yet with their choice the Conservatives now move the party much further to the right. Badenoch can now espouse a host of fanciful policies that will appeal to some but which will never see the inside of a ministerial box. The political map is set for the next four years, so the more interesting question, for me, will be what direction the country chooses to travel in 2029.
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I think that’ll likely be determined by whether folk feel better off than they did in 2024. If they do, then no amount of dog whistling rhetoric will get the Tories elected.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I think that’ll likely be determined by whether folk feel better off than they did in 2024. If they do, then no amount of dog whistling rhetoric will get the Tories elected.
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True. I suppose it will all boil down to whether Labour can stimulate growth. If that growth is only minimal, however, and people only feel marginally better off or no different, then the rhetoric might just appeal to the more desperate.
 
Gabriel said:
With the budget, Labour have now moved the country further to the left, yet with their choice the Conservatives now move the party much further to the right. Badenoch can now espouse a host of fanciful policies that will appeal to some but which will never see the inside of a ministerial box. The political map is set for the next four years, so the more interesting question, for me, will be what direction the country chooses to travel in 2029.
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Agree with you.

I think the tories have a slight chance in 2029 if Labour fuck it up, but I expect we are in for at least a two term Labour government….
 
bluethrunthru said:
talk about making your own bed and having to lie in it they are stuck with her now

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That’s also an acknowledgment of how divided the Conservative Party has become. It’s basically an umbrella term for a host of small groups that share fewer things in common. Without that change, there might have been an endless cycle of leadership challenges, so, barring something extraordinary, Badenoch will now contest the next election.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Objectively speaking that’s got be correct. 15% is ridiculous.
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That 15% was an example of their entitled arrogance - they just assumed they would always be in power and always have a massive number of seats so that 15% would equate to a large number of letters having to go in -as it stands right now that only means 18-19 letters are needed
 
bluethrunthru said:
That 15% was an example of their entitled arrogance - they just assumed they would always be in power and always have a massive number of seats so that 15% would equate to a large number of letters having to go in -as it stands right now that only means 18-19 letters are needed
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Isn't that tosh? I thought the 15% rule was introduced in 1998.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
I don't believe anyone is heading in that direction. More like they're away from what we have in power right now.... problem is there is nowhere to go. They are ALL clowns and duplicitous charlatans, every fuckin one of them!.

Sorry @Phil1, I misread your post, but I think my point still stands.
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F@cking hell .... not lurching to the right ?....what was Rwanda about then ?
All the flag shagging after Brexit
Support for Tommy Robinson ,
The riots ...ignoring international law, attacking the judges ... owning the press ...controlling the education system
the cult of Johnson ..
Brexit (taking back control)
Voter suppression with the introduction of voter ID

Etc Etc Etc


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Open your eyes ...
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
F@cking hell .... not lurching to the right ?....what was Rwanda about then ?
All the flag shagging after Brexit
Support for Tommy Robinson ,
The riots ...ignoring international law, attacking the judges ... owning the press ...controlling the education system
the cult of Johnson ..
Brexit (taking back control)
Voter suppression with the introduction of voter ID

Etc Etc Etc


Lets see if this guy can help

www.openculture.com

Yale Professor Jason Stanley Identifies 10 Tactics of Fascism: The “Cult of the Leader,” Law & Order, Victimhood and More

What is fascism? Fascism is an ideology developed and elaborated in early 20th-century Western Europe and enabled by technology, mass media, and weapons of war. Most of us learned the basics of that development from grade school history textbooks.
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Open your eyes ...
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Opinion.... yours.

Can you give examples of who is lurching to the right as opposed to those who are pissed off with the Labour government increasing taxes, punishing small businesses by making them cut jobs due to Business NIC increases, introducing workers rights that cannot be financed, taking benefits away from old people.....

yeah, a bit of a dilemma separating the two eh?


There are millions of dissatisfied voters with nowhere to go. Don't want to go to or carry on with Labour, same for the Tories.... rich pickings for Reform IMO. That is the point.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Opinion.... yours.

Can you give examples of who is lurching to the right as opposed to those who are pissed off with the Labour government increasing taxes, punishing small businesses by making them cut jobs due to Business NIC increases, introducing workers rights that cannot be financed, taking benefits away from old people.....

yeah, a bit of a dilemma separating the two eh?


There are millions of dissatisfied voters with nowhere to go. Don't want to go to or carry on with Labour, same for the Tories.... rich pickings for Reform IMO. That is the point.
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Reform don’t stand for anything. They just want to stop everything and burn stuff to the ground. Maybe it needs to see them elected for people to realise that.

Thrn the two sides can fight each other. I’ll be in the Winchester until it blows over.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Reform don’t stand for anything. They just want to stop everything and burn stuff to the ground. Maybe it needs to see them elected for people to realise that.

Thrn the two sides can fight each other. I’ll be in the Winchester until it blows over.
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