The Conservative Party

[bluethrunthru]

For a pay rise to be inflationary it has to front run inflation. The easiest answer to this is pay awards of prior year inflation + 2% as a public sector pay award. Inflation is what money has eroded the prior year and 2% is the inflation the government wants the next year. The unions demanding this early is inflationary but the government should simply say yes you’ll get this in the following years pay award (2023 for 2022). Yes you have to cover increased bills up to the pay award but it’s transparent and fair.

why not settle? Paying more is inflationary in itself. Agree settlement then invite back to the table to discuss reforms - make the settlement not dependant on reforms per se but then discuss them. Its an ideological assault on Unions that is costing the country productivity and money - not that they care - people represented by the same unions outside the public sphere have negotiated higher pay rises for their members and not a peep out of Sunak and the rest

 

[johnnytapia]

For a pay rise to be inflationary it has to front run inflation. The easiest answer to this is pay awards of prior year inflation + 2% as a public sector pay award. Inflation is what money has eroded the prior year and 2% is the inflation the government wants the next year. The unions demanding this early is inflationary but the government should simply say yes you’ll get this in the following years pay award (2023 for 2022). Yes you have to cover increased bills up to the pay award but it’s transparent and fair.

If only we had the money this year. But we don’t; times are hard, pull in the purse strings because....We’re all in this..,togeth...,

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

he is well aware his fishing and farming constituency will never forgive him nor his party for the Brexit lies

Cornwall MP George Eustice to quit at next general election

The ex-environment secretary says he wants to pursue a "final career outside politics".

www.bbc.co.uk

Last big payday from his donors.

 

[bonespost]

 

[Blue and true]

If only we had the money this year. But we don’t; times are hard, pull in the purse strings because....We’re all in this..,togeth...,
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Don't get me started mate. No doubt the "all in this together" party will be given front row seats for this offensive freakshow.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Pork barrel politics in action - at least the hordes of struggling kids in the ghetto's of Richmond North Yorkshire will be grateful

 

[MillionMilesAway]

For a pay rise to be inflationary it has to front run inflation. The easiest answer to this is pay awards of prior year inflation + 2% as a public sector pay award. Inflation is what money has eroded the prior year and 2% is the inflation the government wants the next year. The unions demanding this early is inflationary but the government should simply say yes you’ll get this in the following years pay award (2023 for 2022). Yes you have to cover increased bills up to the pay award but it’s transparent and fair.

Wouldn't that mean that next year's payrise would be the 12% (ish)?

I'm not saying you're wrong (it sounds fairly reasonable on the face of it), but as was said by a union this week, why would they trust this govt? That's the position the govt have got themselves into, and seem to have little clue how to get them out of it.

 

[metalblue]

If only we had the money this year. But we don’t; times are hard, pull in the purse strings because....We’re all in this..,togeth...,
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Don't get me started mate. No doubt the "all in this together" party will be given front row seats for this offensive freakshow.

And? It’s not costing either of you or I or any of us a single penny so what does it matter? It’s a gift from the royal coach builder in Australia.

New state coach for King's Coronation features crown made in shadow of Humber Bridge

It may look a picture of regal, gilded splendour - but as the late Queen experienced, her Gold State Coach was anything but comfortable.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

that’s the trouble with social media it lets fake news get spread without check.

 

[metalblue]

Wouldn't that mean that next year's payrise would be the 12% (ish)?

I'm not saying you're wrong (it sounds fairly reasonable on the face of it), but as was said by a union this week, why would they trust this govt? That's the position the govt have got themselves into, and seem to have little clue how to get them out of it.

Yes it would, but it’s entirely fair. In terms of trust it would be the deal they put in front of the unions effective from start of each tax year, so April 2023. I don’t think it would require any greater trust than them offering them any other deal, in fact an honest straightforward deal like that might make them more trustworthy. It should not be tied to working practices, that should be entirely independent, and It should only cover those directly employed by the government in captive industries so health, police, fire and teaching. Rail (private employer), civil servants (can get a job elsewhere) etc should not be covered. Rail have typically done well with pay deals and were running around 25% real terms pay increase since 2010 before inflation went bonkers and still ahead of the curve so they’ll be just fine.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Two points to observe here - Kay Burley mentions how much more Blackpool is income deprived - the 2 red wall seats in Blackpool went blue last election so their MP's are being chucked under the bus and second wasn't the Army base housing provision outsourced some years ago like the railways were privatised? If so why are levelling up funds being spent on housing that should be provided by the private sector?