The Conservative Party

[Vic]

Actually for the example of someone on minimum wage doing 40 hours a week, the cut in NI almost exactly offsets the lack of indexation, so for the lower paid the NI cut does have some purpose.

Weren't you claiming those on minimum wage will be better off? Oh, you meant if the Tories hadn't frozen allowances...

 

[Vic]

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Not sure stopping the boats will do very much. Those people won’t even be part of this graph, unless they’ve been processed and allowed to remain.

Could post this in the Dutch thread too. Vote clowns, get a circus.

Small boat arrivals - 0.3% of net immigration...

Edit.... that's what I heard (or rather 99.7% weren't small boats) but it must be nearer 3% surely.

 

[blueparrot]

We'll never know, will we? Somehow I think Gordon Brown knows more about global capitalism than you.

It's quite pathetic if capitalism survives despite an inevitable boom and bust cycle.

And growth under Labour 1997-2010 was twice what it has been since the capitalist party took "control" in 2010.

Labour are a capitalist party, or any Labour parety that wins power will be a capitalist party. Different grades to the tories and what you do within the capitalist system may differ. Lets not pretend they aren't based within the capitalist system though.

 

[Vic]

Labour are a capitalist party, or any Labour parety that wins power will be a capitalist party. Different grades to the tories and what you do within the capitalist system may differ. Lets not pretend they aren't based within the capitalist system though.

So vote for the capitalist party that does it better by wishing it wasn't.

 

[blueparrot]

So vote for the capitalist party that does it better by wishing it wasn't.

I know that, just saying this is a capitalist country and will always elect a capitalist government. You seemed to be suggesting Labour weren't one, they are and couldn't win without being one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Small boat arrivals - 0.3% of net immigration...

And the 200 Rwandan places is what percentage of small boat arrivals?

 

[shemnel]

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Not sure stopping the boats will do very much. Those people won’t even be part of this graph, unless they’ve been processed and allowed to remain.

Could post this in the Dutch thread too. Vote clowns, get a circus.

is this a big increase in Indian/Chinese students post covid?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

is this a big increase in Indian/Chinese students post covid?

Indians are the largest proportion, but it’s more for healthcare jobs than for students.

 

[shemnel]

Indians are the largest proportion, but it’s more for healthcare jobs than for students.

dont visa-based students outnumber visa healthcare workers by 3 to 1?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

dont visa-based students outnumber visa healthcare workers by 3 to 1?

Seems you are more right than me, but the gov.uk website gives different figures to the ones flying around Twitter.

“There were 299,891 grants to main applicants on work visas, 61% higher than in the year ending March 2022, largely due to increases in the ‘Skilled Worker’ visas.

‘Skilled Worker’ visa grants to main applicants have risen by 59% in the past year to around 69,423. ‘Skilled Worker – Health and Care’ visa grants to main applicants have risen over two and half times (+171%) to around 101,570, in part due to the expansion in late 2021 for ‘Care Workers and Home Carers’ and ‘Senior Care Workers’.

Indian nationals were the highest nationality granted on both these routes.


In the year ending March 2023, there were 477,931 sponsored study visas issued to main applicants, 22% more than in the year ending March 2022.

There were 138,532 grants to Indian nationals, an increase of 53,429 (+63%) compared to year ending March 2022 (85,103). Chinese nationals were the second most common nationality granted sponsored study visas in the year ending March 2023, with 100,397 visas granted.