The Conservative Party

[bluethrunthru]

that the defendant has a view to make a gain for himself or another or have intent to cause a loss to another.

Surely Tice's suggestion threatens to get Gullis kicked out and incur a loss to his income? Also Tice stands to gain if Reform wins the seat?

Don't get me wrong they are two cheeks of the same arse so who cares but to threaten someone publicly like that is amazing and I am sure actionable ............. unless Gullis is a wrong 'un and foolishly confided in 30p Lee coz I bet thats where it stems from.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

What would a threat of releasing compromising photos fall under, if it weren’t in exchange for money, but to trash an opponent.

Misuse of confidential or private information probably. Which is a common law tort.

Might still be blackmail if they intend to cause a financial loss and not gain themselves.

 

[Postman Pep]

Can't he just write erotic fiction instead?

Always good to have a fall back option .... possibly a more viable option than Tanski offering up legal opinion on Twitter ;-)

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Surely Tice's suggestion threatens to get Gullis kicked out and incur a loss to his income? Also Tice stands to gain if Reform wins the seat?

Don't get me wrong they are two cheeks of the same arse so who cares but to threaten someone publicly like that is amazing and I am sure actionable ............. unless Gullis is a wrong 'un and foolishly confided in 30p Lee coz I bet thats where it stems from.

He doesn't stand to make a direct financial gain though does he?

I accept It might well be blackmail if he were trying to threaten Gullis to stand down and leave the seat free for himself.

He's only telling him not to throw dirt unless he wants it back.

I'm not an expert in the area, but on the face of it I'm leaning against it being blackmail.

It could also be a reasonable demand TBF.

 

[Eebo]

Multi-millionaire Sunak wants to make homelessness a crime.

How in Gods name can homelessness be a crime?

What next from these appalling people - 6 months in prison if you get cancer? A years hard labour if you have a heart attack?

I have an incredibly low opinion of Tories but even I didn’t believe they could be so inhuman.

It seems it is true, being reported in The Times.

Rishi Sunak faces revolt over plan to criminalise homelessness

Dozens of Tory MPs on the party’s left and right are prepared to challenge proposals in the Criminal Justice Bill to move on, fine or jail rough sleepers

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[TinFoilHat]

Multi-millionaire Sunak wants to make homelessness a crime.

How in Gods name can homelessness be a crime?

What next from these appalling people - 6 months in prison if you get cancer? A years hard labour if you have a heart attack?

I have an incredibly low opinion of Tories but even I didn’t believe they could be so inhuman.

It seems it is true, being reported in The Times.

Rishi Sunak faces revolt over plan to criminalise homelessness

Dozens of Tory MPs on the party’s left and right are prepared to challenge proposals in the Criminal Justice Bill to move on, fine or jail rough sleepers

www.thetimes.co.uk

He's seen Desantis do it in Florida and fancies it as an "easy win" for his party voters.

A proper ****

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Multi-millionaire Sunak wants to make homelessness a crime.

How in Gods name can homelessness be a crime?

What next from these appalling people - 6 months in prison if you get cancer? A years hard labour if you have a heart attack?

I have an incredibly low opinion of Tories but even I didn’t believe they could be so inhuman.

It seems it is true, being reported in The Times.

Rishi Sunak faces revolt over plan to criminalise homelessness

Dozens of Tory MPs on the party’s left and right are prepared to challenge proposals in the Criminal Justice Bill to move on, fine or jail rough sleepers

www.thetimes.co.uk

"Have you tried raise VAT and kill all the poor?"



Same vibes.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Stop reading twitter for legal opinion.

Blackmail has a number of requirements.

What elements need to be established to prove blackmail?​

To prove blackmail it must be shown the defendant did the following things:

• made a demand;
• with menaces;
• that the demand was unwarranted; and
• that the defendant has a view to make a gain for himself or another or have intent to cause a loss to another.

Section 34 of TA 1968 defines gain and loss as including only gain and loss of money or other property.

Not sure Richard Tice has a view to make a monetary gain from this.

Gutter Newspapers have frequently deployed such tactics and not committed blackmail.

Inclined to agree. If there's one thing I've learnt from all of the Trump bullshit, it's that the bar for this kind of thing along with similar public forum defamation/libel is very high. Proving all the requisite criteria to secure a civil claim or criminal conviction based purely on statements on X/Twitter/whatever is very difficult to do.

 

[BrianW]

He's seen Desantis do it in Florida and fancies it as an "easy win" for his party voters.

A proper ****

Some people think homelessness is a 'choice'.

I suppose it depends on how you define 'choice'. There are anecdotes out there, but they could be complete bollocks.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Multi-millionaire Sunak wants to make homelessness a crime.

How in Gods name can homelessness be a crime?

What next from these appalling people - 6 months in prison if you get cancer? A years hard labour if you have a heart attack?

I have an incredibly low opinion of Tories but even I didn’t believe they could be so inhuman.

It seems it is true, being reported in The Times.

Rishi Sunak faces revolt over plan to criminalise homelessness

Dozens of Tory MPs on the party’s left and right are prepared to challenge proposals in the Criminal Justice Bill to move on, fine or jail rough sleepers

www.thetimes.co.uk

Its another frothing at the mouth grab to the gammon/older voter/ red meat brigade which is meant to be an announcement but not a practise. With a court system having backlogs of months for serious actual crimes and prisons overflowing and being declare unfit for habitation - with a legal system freeing actual real criminals early the idea that a story of a homeless former soldier getting arrested on the streets for the "crime" of sleeping rough would ever be a vote winner is for the birds - its just there to make it look like he is dealing with the "peoples issues"

Every day and everything he does is more desperate and fails - why he doesn't call an election is beyond me. Once out of politics many of his brighter stars will struggle to get meaningful employment in my opinion.