The Conservative Party

Phil1 said:
Haha! Imagine still trying to push the labour are shit line when the government you voted in are systematically tearing the UK apart.
Have you no fucking shame? Hold them to account for fucks sake, not blindly support them because they aren't Labour.
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Systematically tearing the UK apart?

Do you want to break that down for me because it sounds like hyperbole. Or are you blindly rolling out lines likes this because they aren’t labour.
 
metalblue said:
Has your tax contribution gone up then in that budget?
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I've not had a pay rise in 2 years. Bills have gone up. My property was moved into a higher band of council tax thanks to "gentrification", and my NIC is going up.I will be personally losing out as will millions of others. But thank fuck we don't have that commie in charge eh...
 
mat said:
I've not had a pay rise in 2 years. Bills have gone up. My property was moved into a higher band of council tax thanks to "gentrification", and my NIC is going up.I will be personally losing out as will millions of others. But thank fuck we don't have that commie in charge eh...
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So true - had Labour won it would have been tax rises, services slashed, higher infla.............hang on a minute
 
metalblue said:
Systematically tearing the UK apart?

Do you want to break that down for me because it sounds like hyperbole. Or are you blindly rolling out lines likes this because they aren’t labour.
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It's the polotics forum, hyperbole is all the rage.
Anyway, apologies, the Tory government are doing wonderful and the UK isn't becoming a laughing stock due to the most inept PM in history.
To answer your question though, no, I've no wish to spend my day breaking down all the things the tories have done over the last decade that have caused damage to the UK in one way or another. It doesn't matter, they will continue to get voted in because sadly there's more than a fair share of voters who don't give a fuck either way.
I suspect Labour would make their fair share of fuck ups as well but that's not really the point.
Reading posts refusing to give the party they voted in any backlash for their failings just because "at least its not Labour" is the worst cop-out available and will never lead to improvements.
I can't remember any of the main Conservative voters on here ever holding them to account, it's usually just pointing out something about the majority blah blah fucking blah.
 
mat said:
I've not had a pay rise in 2 years. Bills have gone up. My property was moved into a higher band of council tax thanks to "gentrification", and my NIC is going up.I will be personally losing out as will millions of others. But thank fuck we don't have that commie in charge eh...
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You missed out a big one. Freeze on tax free allowances to 2026 - that’ll hit over 30m people and bring an extra 200k into paying tax by then. And someone said that Rachel Reeves did a good job? She was busy chatting shit when she should have been slamming them.
 
Phil1 said:
It's the polotics forum, hyperbole is all the rage.
Anyway, apologies, the Tory government are doing wonderful and the UK isn't becoming a laughing stock due to the most inept PM in history.
To answer your question though, no, I've no wish to spend my day breaking down all the things the tories have done over the last decade that have caused damage to the UK in one way or another. It doesn't matter, they will continue to get voted in because sadly there's more than a fair share of voters who don't give a fuck either way.
I suspect Labour would make their fair share of fuck ups as well but that's not really the point.
Reading posts refusing to give the party they voted in any backlash for their failings just because "at least its not Labour" is the worst cop-out available and will never lead to improvements.
I can't remember any of the main Conservative voters on here ever holding them to account, it's usually just pointing out something about the majority blah blah fucking blah.
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The Tory government are doing a wonderful job? Hyperbole is very much all the rage!!
 
metalblue said:
You missed out a big one. Freeze on tax free allowances to 2026 - that’ll hit over 30m people and bring an extra 200k into paying tax by then. And someone said that Rachel Reeves did a good job? She was busy chatting shit when she should have been slamming them.
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Milliband accusing Boris of using slogans and glorified PR opportunities yet Reeves seem to be doing the same thing with her rebuttle.

Ironically it was Kueensberg who found the council tax hike nugget.
 
mat said:
Milliband accusing Boris of using slogans and glorified PR opportunities yet Reeves seem to be doing the same thing with her rebuttle.

Ironically it was Kueensberg who found the council tax hike nugget.
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That’s largely all politics is these days sadly, slogans. I was trying to remember the last politician I had any respect for and that has to be Robin Cook. Although I do like both Stephen Kinnock and Douglas Ross. They are both balanced and not just shouting at the other side because well they are the other side.

I didn’t realise they could re-band houses other than when sold. Seems a sly way to increase revenue without falling foul of the maximum increase caps.
 
manchester blue said:
Utter nonsense. She's a bumbling moaner. All Labour have left is to moan. They'll be nowhere near for years. Nearly everything she said could be argued against. They just want a benefit driven country.
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She quoted facts not the Daily Express,e.g. growth under Labour was way higher than under this lot !
 
Only half of people on universal credit will get a few pennies more to keep on their wages , the rest including the poorest will get nothing , they are trying to get the poorest into work with that , they really dont appreciate child care and transport cost just to name two costs of going onto minumin wage jobs , well he has found plenty of money today so he could have left the uplift on even at ten pounds a week
 
kaz7 said:
Only half of people on universal credit will get a few pennies more to keep on their wages , the rest including the poorest will get nothing , they are trying to get the poorest into work with that , they really dont appreciate child care and transport cost just to name two costs of going onto minumin wage jobs , well he has found plenty of money today so he could have left the uplift on even at ten pounds a week
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why aren't they all just taking cheaper shorthaul flights Kaz?
 
Blue Maverick said:
So if inflation is 4% and NI increases by 1.25% what sort of pay rise would you need to at least break even 5.25%?
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Not really that simple but a decent pay rise would be needed which across the board would also increase inflation.

Lifting everyone sounds great but the distance between them is still the same. Unfortunately if you want to lift the bottom you need to push down from the top. Chances the tories would do that or by anywhere near enough? Zilch.
 
manchester blue said:
Utter nonsense. She's a bumbling moaner. All Labour have left is to moan. They'll be nowhere near for years. Nearly everything she said could be argued against. They just want a benefit driven country.
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She actually did better than I expected. Like a lot of politicians it's when they're put on the spot that the weaknesses are shown.
 
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