The Conservative Party

[George Hannah]

That’s an honest response, but doesn’t that somewhat undermine your inimical stance to the EU?

'by their fruits ye shall know them' too many bitter harvests in those parts over the years.

 

[aguero93:20]

The consequences of the last Tory/Lib coalition would not be seen as a good advertisement for a government listening to new voices.

Would you say the Tories listened to the Lib Dems?

 

[1.618034]

Would you say the Tories listened to the Lib Dems?

A bit. But they were drowned out by the Kippers.

 

[aguero93:20]

A bit. But they were drowned out by the Kippers.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Tbh I think the Lib Dems sold themselves very short in that coalition, maybe a rush of blood to the head after a bit of electoral success following so many elections being silenced by the FPTP system. Don't think they ever realised that the Tories needed their votes on a daily basis.

 

[1.618034]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Tbh I think the Lib Dems sold themselves very short in that coalition, maybe a rush of blood to the head after a bit of electoral success following so many elections being silenced by the FPTP system. Don't think they ever realised that the Tories needed their votes on a daily basis.

Yep.

We'd be in a damn sight better position now if that coalition had endured.

 

[George Hannah]

It was a stable government, despite confident predictions from nay-sayers that it would be anything but.

It has effectively killed the Lib Dems as a parliamentary force. I don't see them recovering except via PR and there is no virtually chance of that happening anytime soon. It is a sad tale in many ways - I breakfasted at the National Liberal Club in Whitehall once, unforgettable, I was on the verge of joining.

 

[aguero93:20]

It has effectively killed the Lib Dems as a parliamentary force. I don't see them recovering except via PR and there is no virtually chance of that happening anytime soon. It is a sad tale in many ways - I breakfasted at the National Liberal Club in Whitehall once, unforgettable, I was on the verge of joining.

Thought they'd be a bit too pro-EU for your tastes GH?

 

[George Hannah]

Thought they'd be a bit too pro-EU for your tastes GH?

Before our accession, continental breakfasts were certainly not their speciality in those distant days. Please don't gain the impression I'm anti-Europe, some of my oldest and best friends are French and even Scottish & Irish.

 

[aguero93:20]

You mustn't get the impression I'm anti-Europe, some of my oldest and best friends are French and even Scottish & Irish.

Just the Germans then?

 

[George Hannah]

Just the Germans then?

I lived in Germany as a student for a short while, in Bochum at the University of the Ruhr. It was fantastic, never bought a pint - they loved the English and I loved them. Sadly both baked beans and toast were unknown and I developed a taste for Schnitzel that has left its mark.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It should be remembered that UKIP took nearly 4 million votes at the 2015 GE, many coming from the right of the Tory party along with some of the poorer Labour areas of the country and if we don’t leave the EU, I can see those and more looking for a new home in the future.

It’s all on the next few months that’s for sure.

In support of what I was saying, it's also worth remembering how many MPs UKIP managed to get with their 4m votes.

 

[Vic]

It has effectively killed the Lib Dems as a parliamentary force. I don't see them recovering except via PR and there is no virtually chance of that happening anytime soon. It is a sad tale in many ways - I breakfasted at the National Liberal Club in Whitehall once, unforgettable, I was on the verge of joining.

I met a member there but I didn't get a meal. Still had to borrow a tie. And didn't think of joining.

 

[Fame Monster]

Irresponsible attempt to take us towards no deal like most Tory party politics of the last couple of months.

 

[taleofbluehalves]

Shambles of a party at the moment. Regardless of if you want to leave or remain a party in this state of division should not be leading these negotiations.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Just heard May say “The Conservatives are a party of the whole country”. They’re not even a party of the whole Conservative party.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

 

[The perfect fumble]

Just heard May say “The Conservatives are a party of the whole country”. They’re not even a party of the whole Conservative party.

Even the Downing street cat has his reservations.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Even the Downing street cat has his reservations.

Did he put a letter in?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I thought it was Labour who were playing politics?

Shambolic - backed themselves into a corner at the 59th minute of the 11th hour - even now I bet she wins thus wasting even more precious time and landing themselves with a hapless hopeless leader for the next 12 months - Toryism is now in intensive care and the next week will determine whether it survives.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Did he put a letter in?

He put his litter in, the 1922 Committee added it to the pile.