The decision to loan Barry and keep Garcia.

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Ban-jani

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I've been watching Everton a bit this season and in particular Barry, of whom I'm a huge fan.
This isn't a thread cricising Pellegrini, as I really like him and think he's improved things,
but I want to know why the club decided we'd loan Gareth but keep Javi?

Barry's passing is far more varied and he can make penetrative balls through,
whereas Garcia cannot and passes from side to side.
Their pace is similar - next to none, but Barry reads the game much better and
get's into positions early so his pace isn't too much of an issue.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently (I know I should be just enjoying
our form!) and I want to know what other blues think?

I personally think it was a terrible decision, as was selling Suarez. The good news
is the rest of our transfer market, Jovetic aside, was fantastic.
 
Ban-jani said:
I've been watching Everton a bit this season and in particular Barry, of whom I'm a huge fan.
This isn't a thread cricising Pellegrini, as I really like him and think he's improved things,
but I want to know why the club decided we'd loan Gareth but keep Javi?

Barry's passing is far more varied and he can make penetrative balls through,
whereas Garcia cannot and passes from side to side.
Their pace is similar - next to none, but Barry reads the game much better and
get's into positions early so his pace isn't too much of an issue.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently (I know I should be just enjoying
our form!) and I want to know what other blues think?

I personally think it was a terrible decision, as was selling Suarez. The good news
is the rest of our transfer market, Jovetic aside, was fantastic.
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I think it was a poor decision. Perhaps it was down to wages?
 
We are above them in the league, we have beaten them at home, we are in the semi finals of the Carling Cup, they arent, we are in the knock out phase of the champions league, they are not.

All managers make calls on players, Pellegrini has done so here and so far, our form and results tend to back his calls up.

Im no fan of Garcia although he has played a hell of a lot better this last few games.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
World Cup year and Barry wanted a starting role rather than sub and rotation apperances ala Garcia?
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Barry would have had plenty of games IMO,
We're in 4 competitions and Garcia gets to play every week.
Barry would have featured more than Garcia has I think once the gaffer
had seen his good work.
 
He is a very good player, but was on big wages and was not playing. Everton offered to pay his wages. We cannot pick who other teams are willing to pay for. Good look to him, he has taken his new chance. Just hope he hurts some of our opposition.
 
Be back shortly going to find a brick wall to head butt for several minutes. He has gone he wanted regular first team football and we could not offer that.
 
No club would ever pay what we'd like for Garcia and even less would pay his wages on a loan. Instead, Barry prefered to not be backup and Everton offered us to pay all his wages. Plus, Garcia can play defender and that has helped us this season when we had injuries.

Plus, it would be completely mental to pay Barry £90k a week to sit on the bench. We weren't gonna extend his contract and he'd be off anyway without us getting paid. With Garcia, we might at least be able to get some money if he is to leave, though he is on similar wages as Barry.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
Be back shortly going to find a brick wall to head butt for several minutes. He has gone he wanted regular first team football and we could not offer that.
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Make sure you give it a strong head butt.
 
Ban-jani said:
I've been watching Everton a bit this season and in particular Barry, of whom I'm a huge fan.
This isn't a thread cricising Pellegrini, as I really like him and think he's improved things,
but I want to know why the club decided we'd loan Gareth but keep Javi?

Barry's passing is far more varied and he can make penetrative balls through,
whereas Garcia cannot and passes from side to side.
Their pace is similar - next to none, but Barry reads the game much better and
get's into positions early so his pace isn't too much of an issue.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently (I know I should be just enjoying
our form!) and I want to know what other blues think?

I personally think it was a terrible decision, as was selling Suarez. The good news
is the rest of our transfer market, Jovetic aside, was fantastic.
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Wages.

Versatility, Garcia has also played at centre half, would Barry?

Less likely to rock the boat due starting games.

And in my view, Everton would have wanted Barry and we may want first option on Barkley and this will help in that aim.
 
Ban-jani said:
the originalkippaxman said:
Be back shortly going to find a brick wall to head butt for several minutes. He has gone he wanted regular first team football and we could not offer that.
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Make sure you give it a strong head butt.
Click to expand...

Intend to let me know when you open a we should never have sold De Jong thread so I can stick some 6 inch nails through my boll*cks.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
Ban-jani said:
the originalkippaxman said:
Be back shortly going to find a brick wall to head butt for several minutes. He has gone he wanted regular first team football and we could not offer that.
Click to expand...

Make sure you give it a strong head butt.
Click to expand...

Intend to let me know when you open a we should never have sold De Jong thread so I can stick some 6 inch nails through my boll*cks.
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We sold De Jong, we have only loaned Barry and can get him back at the end of the season.
Think about it.

In reference to wages, I think we could have got money for Garcia and have his wages off the books so that would have more than covered Barry.
I also think Barry could have stepped in for either Yaya or Fernandinho more effectively.
 
lust overlord said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
World Cup year and Barry wanted a starting role rather than sub and rotation apperances ala Garcia?
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Almost certainly correct.
+ only 1 year left on contract.
Shame he couldn't stay but you can't blame him for wanting to play more.
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Thats my thinking him and Pelle obviously had a chat and came to the decision. I think its a nice touch from pelle in all honesty to let him know where he stood and then not stand in his way when he wanted to go out on loan. Barry will get a lovely free transfer at the end of this season as well. I dont think he will have any negative feelings towards pelle or City
 
Everton are proving to be a bit of a thorn in the side of those in and around us, they've beaten United and Chelsea whilst holding Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool to draws. We have so far managed to beat them at home.

Barry is a key figure in their team, more important than someone like Lukaku because of his experience playing the big teams at the top of the table. He is still effectively doing a job for City because he can't play against us so therefore can't hurt us.

If we can win the fixture at Goodison (a big ask historically) and Everton continue to pinch points off our rivals, it will be a huge boost for out title chances. Would he have been better in our team? Probably, but he's not done us any harm and it actually might turn out to be a good strategic move by City.
 
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