The Derby Post Match Thread

the luck they have sickens me. we outplayed them and should have been 3-0 up before they got their lucky equalizer.

no excuse for beeing so pathetic for 75 minutes today, but the luck they have had this season if unbelievable.
 
Blue_Mist said:
All the talk of our players not being bothered is tiresome. It's that mentality that's stopping us from progressing...some of them just aren't good enough and we were beat by a tactically better team today. The dirty rags were very good.

Does it take skill to lift your heads up after scoring a goal then?
Why don't we just sign the Burnley team, since they must be better than we already have.

It's not skill we're lacking, it's attitude.
 
Mattyc55 said:
Thaksinssoldier said:
Paddy V best be put in charge immediately.

Also ,yaya was truly awful, but he's played far too much football and its showing. Double winning campaign to world cup to this season to African nations to this shambles. He wasn't managed right.

Mangala should have started and played well under the circumstances. Give him every game from here on and let him shine.

Nasri did his usual hiding in a big game. He's useless for a team like us.

Let's just get top 4 with Paddy and build another dynasty.

Agree on the majority but please can we all stop kidding ourselves that Mangala is going to come good. He was laughably about 3 yards out of position with the defensive line for Smalling's goal. Certainly no worse than Kompany at the moment but its about time we all just accepted that we've bought a dud.

If Mangala cost the amount of Savic rather than the 40 million that has come out recently, everyone would be unanimous in the fact he's never gonna be top draw.

People who think he'll be anywhere near world class are deluded and speaking more in hope and optimism and probably in sheer embarrassment at the price we paid for him.

Spunked 40 million on this guy and we ship Nastasic out.

Madness.
 
I don’t even know where to start.

If you analyse this season you can split it in to three very clear segments.

1. August through to November.
This period acted as a nice prelude to the rest of the season: losing to Arsenal in the Community Shield, losing at home to Stoke in the League, going out of the Capital One Cup at home to Newcastle and nearly capitulating completely in Europe by failing to record a single win in our opening four group games.

2. November through to December.
Without doubt the pinnacle of our season. We won every game during these two months except for two: a draw against Burnley in the League and a loss to CSKA in Europe. Somehow we managed to claw back the gap against Chelsea and scrape through our group in Europe.

3. January to now.
Our record: Played 17 Won 6 Draw 3 Lost 8
This includes a humiliating FA Cup exit to Middlesbrough at home and two convincing defeats against Barcelona.

It just speaks for itself. This period now is the worst it has been since the takeover in 2008. I could accept Hughes drawing 8 in a row, we still had Kelvin Etuhu and a whole host of average players. This is unacceptable in the strongest possible way.

I just want to break down our transfer spending since Txiki Begiristain arrived at the club in October 2012.

Fernandinho £30,000,000
Sagna Free
Fernando £12,000,000
Demichellis £2,500,000
Negredo £20,000,000
Jovetic £22,000,000
Navas £15,000,000
Caballero £6,000,000
Lampard Free
Zuculini £3,000,000
Mangala £32,000,000
Bony £28,000,000

Total expenditure £170,500,000 in three years, on twelve players. From the above players only three were in the first eleven today: Fernandinho, Navas and Demichellis, the rest were signed by Garry Cook and Mancini. Any City fan who has the cheek to claim Financial Fair Play has hampered us is deluding themselves. Whilst we spend the night away on average squad players, we are releasing players for free in most cases.

Carlos Tevez £10,000,000
K.Toure Free
Pantillimon Free
Lescott Free
Barry £2,000,000
Nastasic £6,000,000
Richards Free
Guidetti Free

The club is being ran in a shambolic way by the Director of Football and our manager. This regression started soon after Garry Cook left. Can we entrust £150,000,000 to rebuild this team with these two baboons? All of the evidence suggests we would be insane to do so. The funny thing is, some City fans on Bluemoon will actually support Pellegrini through this and anyone that wants him sacked will be sneered at by a select few. We’ve got executives coming out saying we will always play attractive football win lose or draw, don’t make me laugh, the football is turgid, unattractive and lacks any intensity.

Today, Burnley, Palace, Stoke, Newcastle, Middlesbrough. I’ve actually been ashamed of the teams performances in all of these games. The players out there, every last one of them except Aguero and Silva have displayed this season that they don’t have the heart to play for this club. It’s going to be a tough summer but Yaya, Kolarov, Dzeko, Jovetic and Lampard will all have to leave. If it was fiscally possible I would also be binning Fernando and Sagna. Kompany and Zabaleta I will give the benefit of the doubt but only because they have been loyal servants to us and I seriously blame Pellegrini for our shambolic defending. Lopez, Pozo, Denayer will all have to play squad parts next season if we run out of money. They might not be good enough but we’ll never blood them if they are out on loan every year. I’d rather play a shit academy player than a shit £12,000,000 player like Fernando.

Another thing that has beat me down is the absolute apathy emanating from the club. No urgency from the board to take action, backing the teams performances whilst we slide down the table, Pellegrini saying we are playing well when we’ve won 6 in 17, the fans not caring when we get leathered in Europe. Everything about the club just radiates “who gives a shit?” This is personified by the absolute wankers who ring 5Live, TalkSPORT and GMR and say “well at least we don’t have to play Barnet in League 2 anymore, I was there you know!!!”

I’m losing track here but I am absolutely fuming at our slide from the best team in England, with a serious opportunity to begin a dynasty stretching out for years, to being out fought by wank players like Young, Fellaini, Blind, Smalling and Jones. Every single person at the club should be ashamed of themselves tonight and the fans should demand better by demanding this pudding of a manager is sacked before he takes us right out of the top 4 with his 442 shit.

Thanks for the memories but this side and management structure must be dissembled. Khaldoon, do the business and get rid of the DoF and the manager and move heaven and earth to install Ancelotti and give him full control.
 
80s Shorts said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
babyajay said:
Mancini saw right through the players who had no heart and bottle. Board back them and not the manager. Disgrace.

Get him back and bring some life and passion back into this team.
Can we quite this revisionism. Mancini was sacked because he refused to work with the people he needed to work with and basically told the Sheikh to piss off when he was asked to do that. And 2012/13 wasn't a great deal better than this season has been.

I don't disagree that some of the players are past their sell-by date and need to be moved on. But to say it's a disgrace that the owners backed the players over Mancini is utter and complete bollocks. Macini was 100% the architect of his own downfall, from the day he handed his resignation letter in just after we won the title.

You keep saying this.

In what way did Mancini tell "the Sheik to piss off".

I'm interested. I also think it is absolute crap.

So go on, fill in the details since you seem so informed.


No ?


Or are you still composing your post.
 
We all knew how utd would play. Long diagonal ball to the left for mop head but still the manager couldn't stop it. Bet mourinho has it cut off next week. There's the difference
 
Changes to be made starting tomorrow. Put Paddy in charge for the rest of the season and see if we can cling onto that 4th place.
 
The manager needs to go.

The players need to sort their priorities out, ala 2012-2013. If they are up to the same antics as last time then I couldn't care to see them again.

Their distinctly obvious lack of heart and pride is a fucking insult to all supporters who get up at ridiculous times around the world to watch the lads, travel from afar or near, no matter how infrequently or often and spend their hard earned to watch their languid, couldn't care less displays or turn it on when they feel like it.
I'm embarrassed for them picking up their bumper salaries without giving a fucking jot of thought to those who have had to stand by to watch that shower, especially today. Bunch of mard arse fannies most of them have been this season. Only a few leave with any credit.

But it'll be alright, our players will be back in the media this week again talking about how our season starts this coming weekend again, and not last fucking August.
 
LFC-Fans said:
Right that means your our top four rivals now. As unlikely as it is with the run in you have.

You got some easy fixtures. But hey....you never know.

Easy fixtures?? Have you seen our defence and midfield?? A team of fucking eleven year old's could run riot against that lot!!!
 
Blue Haze said:
Danielmanc said:
Blue Haze said:
When are people going to give up on this Mancini talk? We got bounced in the group stages with him in both his attempts. We got bounced from Europa League by a horrible Sporting and a Ukrainian club. The ones who played the worst for him, the ones who got him sacked, were the players he hand-picked, Mario being the worst offender by far.

It's like people don't even remember his last year with us or how badly his players performed
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You mean that season when we were second in the league and had a final in the Cup at Wembley ? If only we had such dizzy heights this season
Yes, I recall very well. The season we got 3 points from 6 games in the CL with no wins, finishing below Ajax. I especially remember their mocking laughter and that banner implying our club was plastic as they beat the snot out of us 3-1 in Amsterdam. Fun times

Least we were in the Champions League - no guarantee of that next season thanks to our current managerial genius
 

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