The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

[ChicagoBlue]

Certainly looked like them. Used to see the Bullers around Rusholme in the 60's/70's and they were definitely ones to keep out of the way of.

Went to Cavendish Rd (near the Withington hospital) with Alfonso (sp?) in the late 60s/early 70s. Like me, he’d be cracking on 60 by now. Played football with him!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Yeah right...

Chicago shootings: 21 shot, 4 fatally, in weekend violence across city

Four people were killed and at least 17 others have been wounded in shootings across Chicago so far this weekend, including a 10-year-old boy who was shot Friday in East Garfield Park on the West Side.

abc7chicago.com

Look at a map. You’ll see almost any (and almost all) is concentrated in 1 or 2 specific areas.

Anyway, it was a tongue in cheek comment given all the shit guns and Chicago get on here!

After the week we’ve had with nutters with guns, it’d be hard to say even the old Gunchester was anywhere close to a routine day here!

The biggest thing for me is that many of my old stomping grounds from the 70s are gun/crime central now, which feels like it brings it so much closer to home.

Living in the Chicago suburbs, with the city being so big, and the violence being so concentrated and avoidable, it feels quite different.

Clearly didn’t come across as intended for a few, even though I do think the Manchester green belt, plus the Etihad, are its redeeming features!

 

[Midlands Blue]

Went to Cavendish Rd (near the Withington hospital) with Alfonso (sp?) in the late 60s/early 70s. Like me, he’d be cracking on 60 by now. Played football with him!

Was there a Fidel Buller too, or am i imagining that?

 

[Dirty Harry]

Was there a Fidel Buller too, or am i imagining that?

Yes, big chunky lad, remember him well, very quiet most of the time .

 

[paulchapo]

...maybe why many get that 'baby faced killer' tag. The 'pasty' as referred to on here looked like someone who could be likeable, helpful etc...
You can imagine what their life may have been like if they'd gone down a different path with a decent upbringing.

I've been watching a load of podcasts lately with ex criminals talking about their life and now trying to stop other kids going down the same path. The main thread running through almost all of the story's was a terrible upbringing.

 

[somapop]

Was there a Fidel Buller too, or am i imagining that?

Did he have days off school?

 

[discopop]

Salford's full of villains inc the apparatchiks at the BBC. I shall be interested to see how far down the nick Blackley, Crumpsall 'n Apper'ay have gone. Moston improved when MES buggered off to Boston.

Crumpsall has its moments in places though it’s mainly just a race track for drug dealers and the usual petty crime, Lansdowne Rd which used to be quiet is now a haven to to a Balkan gang, Cheetham Hill though is a whole different thing though from the gangs ruling the roost with snide clobber shops to some seriously nasty drug gangs.

 

[paulchapo]

Nicked this off the Cornwall thread. A video of Alfonso Buller who now lives in Falmouth. He must be in his sixties now and you can still see his intensity, so you can imagine what a force he was as a young man.

 

[Bozzie]

Brother. Fonso was the one used to have the long dreads, who ran the MVITA nights at the Midland on Burton Road and was on stage at the end of the Mondays gig at GMEX. Lives down Cornwall way now I think. Carlos is a angry, hissy little queen who buys and sells furniture

I was at school with two of the Bullers, Alphonso was in the year below me and Cesario (Ces) was in the same year as me. There were a couple of elder brothers (Hughie and Ritchie I think but not certain) and they lived in Northern Grove off Burton Rd. From memory, Ces was ok, he was a decent footballer, played up front for the school team, his 'claim to fame' was being on the back of the Sunday Mirror as part of the pitch invasion at The Swamp after Denis Law had scored. Proudly showed it round school the following morning.

 

[Bozzie]

Went to Cavendish Rd (near the Withington hospital) with Alfonso (sp?) in the late 60s/early 70s. Like me, he’d be cracking on 60 by now. Played football with him!

Did you know a lad called Paul O'Hara from Cavendish Road?

 

[Bluemanc100]

yeah very very odd behaviour.

What are the chances that solicitors like her are on the payroll and therefore way too close to their clients?

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Did he have days off school?

 

[WestGorton]

Did he have days off school?

Haha

 

[WestGorton]

What are the chances that solicitors like her are on the payroll and therefore way too close to their clients?

She is no solicitor. Just works in the office of one who take the legal aid work. I kept thinking Paris Hilton has gone downhill.

 

[yozzerblue]

When asked who they wanted to call, after being charged, they all asked to call mum. Strange really.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Crumpsall has its moments in places though it’s mainly just a race track for drug dealers and the usual petty crime, Lansdowne Rd which used to be quiet is now a haven to to a Balkan gang, Cheetham Hill though is a whole different thing though from the gangs ruling the roost with snide clobber shops to some seriously nasty drug gangs.

My birthplace! And for one Summer the scene of some gainful employment at the long =-gone biscuit works. My childhood, youth, impressionable years were spent in North Manchester. The salt of the Earth of the working class - long since gone.

 

[Mike N]

Whenever I see scumbag criminals on tv I always think of the ‘normal, decent’ people who put money in their pockets by buying drugs off them. It’s this money that fuels the crime.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Nicked this off the Cornwall thread. A video of Alfonso Buller who now lives in Falmouth. He must be in his sixties now and you can still see his intensity, so you can imagine what a force he was as a young man.

Jesus i was twitching watching that! Never like being about people like that who you know are a split second away from snapping

 

[discopop]

My birthplace! And for one Summer the scene of some gainful employment at the long =-gone biscuit works. My childhood, youth, impressionable years were spent in North Manchester. The salt of the Earth of the working class - long since gone.

My Mauds mum worked at the biscuit works and in my very early days as an apprentice spark I recall doing some work there, I am a Moston lad (Dean Brook area) and all I seem to remember was good times, I have seen enough of the world with work and on Holiday to understand that Manchester and its many flaws is still a pretty decent place to live.

One thing that is quite amazing is house prices which are going through the roof I presume because of the sprawl outwards from the city centre.

One bad thing about Crumpsall is the absolute dearth of pubs, luckily I can jump on a tram to Mancs or walk to Prestwich.

 

[WestGorton]

Whenever I see scumbag criminals on tv I always think of the ‘normal, decent’ people who put money in their pockets by buying drugs off them. It’s this money that fuels the crime.

Drug users are just as guilty. There would be no supply without demand.