The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

marcus said:
Jesus i was twitching watching that! Never like being about people like that who you know are a split second away from snapping
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Ha ha yes a ticking timebomb. I worked in the ships with a bloke like that, Melyvn. Fantastic company, a right laugh but he could switch in a second to wanting to kill someone.
 
Bozzie said:
Did you know a lad called Paul O'Hara from Cavendish Road?
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I remember two names:
Alfonso Buller
Catherine Ugwu

That’s it! By age 12, I had been to so many schools in Macclesfield, Withington, Radcliffe, Whitefield and Ashton, most of it is a blur! Sorry.
 
Went to primary school with Darren Berkeley.

Was a rum little **** even at that age and it's no surprise he ended up as he did.

Buller is part of the same mob as Alphonso and Fidel who were both boys about town when I was growing up. Went on to become major faces on the Madchester / rave scene.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I remember two names:
Alfonso Buller
Catherine Ugwu

That’s it! By age 12, I had been to so many schools in Macclesfield, Withington, Radcliffe, Whitefield and Ashton, most of it is a blur! Sorry.
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No worries pal. I was an Old Moat lad and then Wilbraham, Paul was something of an enigma, one of the brightest lads I knew, wagged virtually all of the 4th year and half of the 5th. The school, or whoever, forced him to sit his mock O levels and he did better than half of us who'd barely missed a day. Last seen working in Timpson's on Market St and I've always hoped he had a good life!
 
It's a real mugs game crime these days. You have all the CCTV and other technology to track you. The money you make you can't put into a bank due to the money laundering legislation. That means you have to stache it somewhere making you a target for thugs like this. On top of all that if you do find a way to get around all these things and get caught years down the line the poc will take it all away leaving you skint. You could steal £100,000 and get 5 years in nick. Working for just £20,000 a year you'd be better off and free.
 
paulchapo said:
I've been watching a load of podcasts lately with ex criminals talking about their life and now trying to stop other kids going down the same path. The main thread running through almost all of the story's was a terrible upbringing.
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James English has done cracking guests on his.
I used to watch Shaun Attwood on YouTube a lot but rumour is he's a bit of a wrong un.

If you're into that sort of thing have a look at a guy called Neil woods on YouTube. Ex cop, drug squad. Very interesting
 
There's a huge distinction between cool crime dramas many of us love on TV/Film and real life crime.
One is 'Hollywood', the other just really cold and grim.
Same with many things in life though (compare zombie/virus movies with 2020....).
 
Kazzydeyna said:
James English has done cracking guests on his.
I used to watch Shaun Attwood on YouTube a lot but rumour is he's a bit of a wrong un.

If you're into that sort of thing have a look at a guy called Neil woods on YouTube. Ex cop, drug squad. Very interesting
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I watch James English. I think Shaun's okay, he gets a lot of jealousy. Some of his sexual preferences are a bit odd but not illegal. His mate Wildman dying was a shame he was one of life's great characters.

I've watched the Neil Woods interview. Loads of ex cops say the war on drugs is crazy it's fuelling all the murder, violence and misery, but it is a huge money making racket for the judiciary and private prisons.
 
The authorities love investigation of gangs in my opinion. It's all glamour for them with no real results. They need to be on the street rather than on a computer.
 
paulchapo said:
I watch James English. I think Shaun's okay, he gets a lot of jealousy. Some of his sexual preferences are a bit odd but not illegal. His mate Wildman dying was a shame he was one of life's great characters.

I've watched the Neil Woods interview. Loads of ex cops say the war on drugs is crazy it's fuelling all the murder, violence and misery, but it is a huge money making racket for the judiciary and private prisons.
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Wildman was certainly a character.
I subscribed to Shawn's mailing list over lockdown and he used to give his books for free on kindle.
He's had a hell of a life that's for sure.

His books on escobar are excellent as is his book on 2 Tony's the mafia guy
 
Blue Maverick said:
These programs show what real life is all about, many of these do gooders don’t have to live or associate with these people or areas, they take up a cause and how hard done to vertain groups of our society are, when the real truth is they choose it, easy money easy life until it all goes wrong and then they are the cheeky chappy who always has a smile on his face, when in reality the twat would stab you for a cigarette. I’ve become so cynical because I see it day to day, unless you have a cull it’s only going to get worse, I see kids growing up with no chance and then they breed, thinking it’s the norm to walk around in their dressing gowns all day, hoping they can become Instagram famous or whatever. We are on I’d say 3rd generation of this now, but let’s just keep molly coddling them instead of getting tough on the bastards. Organised crime, shoot the bastards, no drain on society and one less to worry about.
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I’ve always wondered if, one day, the higher authorities would meet, covertly, and decide a shoot to kill policy should be enacted to take out these vermin. Quietly, bullet in the head thing. Just a few, put a message out. Then repeat. It will never happen but id love that fear of a vigilante death to haunt these cunts.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Wildman was certainly a character.
I subscribed to Shawn's mailing list over lockdown and he used to give his books for free on kindle.
He's had a hell of a life that's for sure.

His books on escobar are excellent as is his book on 2 Tony's the mafia guy
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He got a lot of stick by hardcore criminals here who tried to make out he was portraying himself as a hardman gangster but he never did. He was a nerdy stockbroker who started supplying ecstacy in the States with great success for quite a while. He readily admits this. He did serve six years in Arizona. He has helped a lot of the people now slagging him off, it's quite sad really.
 
Just watching it now, unbelievable stuff. Scum like this should be locked up till they're old men. Drugs are destroying this country.
 
Most of the gangs who get jailed in Warrington for drug related crime still live in the poorest areas. I’m not sure why they take the risk when the money they make doesn’t actually bring them a much better life that they would have had anyway! Imagine looking over your shoulder all the time. Wondering who is knocking on your door. Grim.
 
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