The end of Debenhams in the high street

There is a lot of hypocracy around this issue. I'm as bad as anyone - always spouting about our wonderful village shops but buy all my shopping online and at the supermarket. Debenham did well to survive as long as it did as the other big department store names went under. I just feel sorry for that poor John Rocha **** that will be having to do £5 hand jobs in the bus station now, particularly as @dronefromsector7G will be undercutting him and swallowing too :-(
Hand job AND swallowing? Are you mixing up your sexual favours?
 
Brought it on themselves really - went into my local one a few weeks ago 'Mantaray' shirts emblazoned with big signs announcing how they were reduced due to store closing and 'everything must go' - down to £25 from £28 - whoopee doo! Everything else in store seemed to be following the same pricing structure and people still weren't buying.
 
The council cannot force private landlords to lower rents.
radcliffe centre is pretty much owned by a London investment firm who have zero interest in helping their tennants.
these private lands, surely they were in the hands of the govt at one stage? when did it all change. Which party/govt got greedy in the end and sold off.

as said look at car parks. Even at train stations and town centres. Sold off to private companies. Why was this allowed to happen?
 
these private lands, surely they were in the hands of the govt at one stage? when did it all change. Which party/govt got greedy in the end and sold off.

as said look at car parks. Even at train stations and town centres. Sold off to private companies. Why was this allowed to happen?
Not 100% sure but when the town centre was re-built in the 60s i'm guessing private investors were involved. Could be wrong though but will check.
 
At one time, because of the nature of the business that Debenhams is/was, Debenhams will have put a lot of small businesses out of business when they took off.

Although, I do feel for the 12,000 who’ve lost their jobs.

But everything evolves.

Even before Covid, we were all working so many hours and we are all too knackered or too busy at weekends to go out of our way shopping at big department stores. Or, if you’re like me, wouldn’t go shopping on weekend if you paid me. So a lot of us started to look online.

Also these big nationwide department stores that do a bit of everything but specialise in nothing, had their time; but I think people are actually starting to prefer to shop at local shops and specialist shops these days. I know if I was looking for a rug or a set of cutlery or a bath towel set, I’d rather go to individual rug, kitchen, and bathroom shops than shop at places like Debenhams. And if they’re a local shop, even better. Theres a security in knowing you’re dealing with someone who understands the product and is even passionate about it or at least the general speciality the product falls under. You’d be hard pushed to find an expert in anything at a department store but, at specialist shops, you do get experts.

I’d rather go to a local indie coffee shop than Costa and especially Starbucks.

I’ve even searched out some local clothing brands and local clothing retailers recently, and started buying their stuff or gear from their local shop instead of just going for the same old big brands or to big department stores.

I’d hope that the future of shopping comes full circle back to more local small businesses. Especially when Covid is behind us, with being out of the EU n’all; not only make sure you buy British, but buy locally from local businesses!

There’s a good (but annoyingly grammatically incorrect) little sign in Ancoats:
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Town is a shit hole, I am hoping the new working from home culture shift will make small town and village centres thrive again.

At least I won’t have to walk through Piccadilly Gardens to get to Market St for something to wear.
That walk from PiccStn > PiccGdns > Market Street has to be one of the worst stretches of any supposedly decent city’s city centre anywhere in the world.

Anytime on any day, it’s like a scene out of an end-of-the-world film.
 
I think the snippet from the guardian below goes some way to summing up it's demise, eternal damnation upon the scallies that flogged it's freeholds. A lot of skullduggery afoot back in the day without thought or hindrance for the business model. I will miss the brand and enjoyed our weekly visits.

I could spend all day riding up and down those escalator, but it was more to do with their superlative cafe and non stop Blue-cross sales that filled uo our wardobe for pennies. You cannot run a business model on continual sales however, so the death of margin was to be the death of debenhams.

John Rocha, Julian McDonald and our good mate Jasper Conran. For us chaps the Maine and Manteray labels were superb, oozing charm and quality. I will proper miss you all and another death knell for our high street. These are changing times and eCommerce has seized the day with its diversity, choice and above all else pricing mechanisms. No way the high street can compete and this really has to be the begining of the end

 
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