The General Election Thread

[malg]

Can those on the Left please stop pedalling the nonsense that the Tories have privatised the NHS. Bliar and Brown hawked the NHS off to private companies years ago with PFI - we'll be getting robbed fucking blind for decades to come because of that shite.

As for the economy improving, I'm not entirely sure that the man on the street is feeling those effects yet.

 

[Bill]

Data clearly shows that the fairer the society the better we all do, not just the bottom x%. We need to realise that we need to pay more tax and make society fairer. I am in the higher tax bracket and I would pay more tax just a shame others don't want to.

De niro do you realise the amount of money which is lost through tax swindles? We must seek a different alternative we are one of the least equal societies in Europe and not far behind the us yet we wish to ape this rways. Look at the horrendous problems there. Shameful. Is that what you all want?

to me there are no bigger swindles that the amazon/google type of company.

 

[Chancy Termites]

Ha ha ok. We wont mention zero hours,increased borrowing,reduction in road repairs,the rise of the foodbanks.....you hang onto that pride de niro...in the same way alf garnett would.
I suspect many toffs will be ukip supporters before long,the ultra right wing cant defect fast enough,must be confusing who to vote for?

62 Labour MPs employ people on zero hour contracts.

And several Labour councils too are doing the same in greater numbers.

Not sure why people keep blaming the Conservatives for them really. Their current form comes about through employment legislation that Labour brought in and their use increased massively while they were in power - double in healthcare and tenfold in education.

I suppose some people think the proper noun 'Labour' is so nice and fluffy that they must be lovely and nice and lovely and warm and lovely and friendly people. I suspect that the Labour Party know this to be true - they can count on their core vote turning out for them time and time again regardless of what they say or do. That's why the Primrose Hill millionaires can parachute their other Millionaire Primrose Hill friends into safe Labour seats and guarantee to be voted in by the very same working class voters they despise. No doubt Primrose Hill will be awash with some of the best Dom Perignon vintages and the most expensive crudités Fortnum and Mason can supply, come election night. And then they can carry on dumping on the poor just like they always do.

 

[law74]

Can those on the Left please stop pedalling the nonsense that the Tories have privatised the NHS. Bliar and Brown hawked the NHS off to private companies years ago with PFI - we'll be getting robbed fucking blind for decades to come because of that shite.

As for the economy improving, I'm not entirely sure that the man on the street is feeling those effects yet.

It is no nonsense that the tories are privatising the Nhs or that the companies that are benefiting have VERY close ties with the tory party. If it was nonsense then were are the apologies and heaxlinez of litigation agaainst a wide range of publications that have named and shamed ministers and constituency parties? Though I agree that the ppi and ppp agreements the last government signed off are a disgrace and why many on the left are still unsure about trusting Labour (have they returned to the left or are they tory lite like under b.liar) but even nu-liebor would be preferable to another sentence of tory misrule.

 

[Helmet Cole]

The nonsense is the assumption that there are any real differences between Labour and the Tories. They are both happy to privatise everything, but Labour find nicer words for it life PFI or partnership.

 

[law74]

Data clearly shows that the fairer the society the better we all do, not just the bottom x%. We need to realise that we need to pay more tax and make society fairer. I am in the higher tax bracket and I would pay more tax just a shame others don't want to.

De niro do you realise the amount of money which is lost through tax swindles? We must seek a different alternative we are one of the least equal societies in Europe and not far behind the us yet we wish to ape this rways. Look at the horrendous problems there. Shameful. Is that what you all want?

to me there are no bigger swindles that the amazon/google type of company.

i would raise you a G4S serco capitas and even Vodafone. all willing to take millions of taxpayers money but unwilling to contribute back into the society they rely on

 

[Bodicoteblue]

62 Labour MPs employ people on zero hour contracts.

And several Labour councils too are doing the same in greater numbers.

Not sure why people keep blaming the Conservatives for them really. Their current form comes about through employment legislation that Labour brought in and their use increased massively while they were in power - double in healthcare and tenfold in education.

I suppose some people think the proper noun 'Labour' is so nice and fluffy that they must be lovely and nice and lovely and warm and lovely and friendly people. I suspect that the Labour Party know this to be true - they can count on their core vote turning out for them time and time again regardless of what they say or do. That's why the Primrose Hill millionaires can parachute their other Millionaire Primrose Hill friends into safe Labour seats and guarantee to be voted in by the very same working class voters they despise. No doubt Primrose Hill will be awash with some of the best Dom Perignon vintages and the most expensive crudités Fortnum and Mason can supply, come election night. And then they can carry on dumping on the poor just like they always do.

Well well , the voice of Ukip denigrating what they like to term as the "political elite" by using pejorative terms and sneering put-downs about champagne and post -codes,sniping from the side lines while patently failing to come up with costed and viable alternatives to Zero hours contracts( if they were so awful the Tories with the economic genius in charge would surely have come up with a sensible alternative after nearly 5years- but think of the effect on employment figures ) and public finance through taxes and PFI (sorry , obviously I overlooked the private health insurance scheme written on the back of one of Nigel's fag packets)
Presumably they are going to finance health and education and social services by sending some foreigners home.
I have yet to hear how the warm and lovely and fluffy and friendly ukip ( who have never been near Fortum and Mason in their lives) with their champagne swilling Tory misfits and racist , mysoginist, sexist and generally insulting ( ask the people of Chigwell about what Ukip think about working-class voters being despised) ranks are going to ride over the horizon to save us all- but then it's easier to snipe knowing you won't actually have to take any responsibility after the next election.

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

And several Labour councils too are doing the same in greater numbers.

Not sure why people keep blaming the Conservatives for them really. Their current form comes about through employment legislation that Labour brought in and their use increased massively while they were in power - double in healthcare and tenfold in education.

I suppose some people think the proper noun 'Labour' is so nice and fluffy that they must be lovely and nice and lovely and warm and lovely and friendly people. I suspect that the Labour Party know this to be true - they can count on their core vote turning out for them time and time again regardless of what they say or do. That's why the Primrose Hill millionaires can parachute their other Millionaire Primrose Hill friends into safe Labour seats and guarantee to be voted in by the very same working class voters they despise. No doubt Primrose Hill will be awash with some of the best Dom Perignon vintages and the most expensive crudités Fortnum and Mason can supply, come election night. And then they can carry on dumping on the poor just like they always do.

Well well , the voice of Ukip denigrating what they like to term as the "political elite" by using pejorative terms and sneering put-downs about champagne and post -codes,sniping from the side lines while patently failing to come up with costed and viable alternatives to Zero hours contracts( if they were so awful the Tories with the economic genius in charge would surely have come up with a sensible alternative after nearly 5years- but think of the effect on employment figures ) and public finance through taxes and PFI (sorry , obviously I overlooked the private health insurance scheme written on the back of one of Nigel's fag packets)
Presumably they are going to finance health and education and social services by sending some foreigners home.
I have yet to hear how the warm and lovely and fluffy and friendly ukip ( who have never been near Fortum and Mason in their lives) with their champagne swilling Tory misfits and racist , mysoginist, sexist and generally insulting ( ask the people of Chigwell about what Ukip think about working-class voters being despised) ranks are going to ride over the horizon to save us all- but then it's easier to snipe knowing you won't actually have to take any responsibility after the next election.

You talk about sneering and put downs and then do the same ffs!

 

[Helmet Cole]

Not sure why people keep blaming the Conservatives for them really. Their current form comes about through employment legislation that Labour brought in and their use increased massively while they were in power - double in healthcare and tenfold in education.

I suppose some people think the proper noun 'Labour' is so nice and fluffy that they must be lovely and nice and lovely and warm and lovely and friendly people. I suspect that the Labour Party know this to be true - they can count on their core vote turning out for them time and time again regardless of what they say or do. That's why the Primrose Hill millionaires can parachute their other Millionaire Primrose Hill friends into safe Labour seats and guarantee to be voted in by the very same working class voters they despise. No doubt Primrose Hill will be awash with some of the best Dom Perignon vintages and the most expensive crudités Fortnum and Mason can supply, come election night. And then they can carry on dumping on the poor just like they always do.

Well well , the voice of Ukip denigrating what they like to term as the "political elite" by using pejorative terms and sneering put-downs about champagne and post -codes,sniping from the side lines while patently failing to come up with costed and viable alternatives to Zero hours contracts( if they were so awful the Tories with the economic genius in charge would surely have come up with a sensible alternative after nearly 5years- but think of the effect on employment figures ) and public finance through taxes and PFI (sorry , obviously I overlooked the private health insurance scheme written on the back of one of Nigel's fag packets)
Presumably they are going to finance health and education and social services by sending some foreigners home.
I have yet to hear how the warm and lovely and fluffy and friendly ukip ( who have never been near Fortum and Mason in their lives) with their champagne swilling Tory misfits and racist , mysoginist, sexist and generally insulting ( ask the people of Chigwell about what Ukip think about working-class voters being despised) ranks are going to ride over the horizon to save us all- but then it's easier to snipe knowing you won't actually have to take any responsibility after the next election.

You talk about sneering and put downs and then do the same ffs!

The difference is that when anyone apart from UKIP use 'sneering and put-downs' it's apparently intelligent debate probably ;-)

 

[law74]

People thinking about voting UKIP need to look at their party funders history, almost all ex-tory donators, a vote for UKIP is like a vote for the Tory's with added rascism