The General Election Thread

[Bluemanc100]

Can anybody answer Boris' question? Did the aliens bring us underpants?

 

[Cheesy]

Come on you Blues!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I see the mods are already out in force.

It will be like the Battle of Orgreave revisited tomorrow.

Worse than the custody battle for Orville.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I see the mods are already out in force.

It will be like the Battle of Orgreave revisited tomorrow.

Worse than the custody battle for Orville.

I hate that duck

 

[cibaman]

I see the mods are already out in force.

It will be like the Battle of Orgreave revisited tomorrow.

Nope. Election day is dead boring. Until the exit polls come out at 10pm. And then nobody will believe them for a few hours.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I see the mods are already out in force.

It will be like the Battle of Orgreave revisited tomorrow.

Worse than the custody battle for Orville.

I hate that duck

I'm sure you do, Cuddles, I'm sure you do.

 

[Len Rum]

Last polls looking good for Ed.
Come on you reds!

 

[80s Shorts]

I see the mods are already out in force.

It will be like the Battle of Orgreave revisited tomorrow.

Worse than the custody battle for Orville.

I hate that duck

Poor fucker has a big gap to fill.

 

[Ducado]

Last polls looking good for Ed.
Come on you reds!

That some spin you are putting on it

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[Gaylord du Bois]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Most of us knew this some time ago, I guess history's just not your strong point.

 

[hilts]

If the mods were serious about banning wum's and trolls with impartiality then I expect jotl and Len rum to be expelled for 1 year starting right now

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Only a **** judges a man by the thoughts and actions of his father.

 

[80s Shorts]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Most of us knew this some time ago, I guess history's just not your strong point.

Isrty, wat istry ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Most of us knew this some time ago, I guess history's just not your strong point.

It's not his weakest point.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Only a c**t judges a man by the thoughts and actions of his father.

Agreed, and adoration shouldn't exist, only understanding.

But still..the name Marx as 'blasphemy'? :/ sort it out Johnny.

 

[BigJoe#1]

24 hours to go, get out and vote politicians love apathy

I actually think the best thing any undecided voter could do is just write fuck off on their ballot papers, I understand anyone not turning up, this election has been the final straw

To me, even destroying the ballot paper is a valid vote. I think it is perfectly acceptable to find yourself in a position where you don't feel you could vote for any of them

 

[xgorton]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Good old Milibands dad well said.

 

[George Hannah]

Interesting bit on Newsnight about Miliband's dad - who adored Karl Marx & wanted capitalism destroyed.

Most of us knew this some time ago, I guess history's just not your strong point.

It's not his weakest point.

vote vote VOTE FOR JOEY BARTON

 

[Damocles]

I struggle with this a bit. I assume you mean the UK, but still.. you try to consider everything in it's entirety or you're a bigot. It's one of things I cant understand. What is best for where I happen to live or best for the world? no matter how minuscule the scale. Basically why I can't stand right wing politics, because it's selfish really, exploitative. there are about 7 billion of us, all conscious.

Think of it this way. I want a Government that is across the entire world that directly controls decision making and will own all public infrastructure, healthcare and the like of rather than having little fiefdoms in imaginary lines on a map suggest that their part is special. I want this because I believe that it will free up private industry focused on products and non-infrastructure services, believe that that human life is sacred and deserves a social safety net, will raise academic/educational standards across the entire world and provide free healthcare to those who need it the most. In addition, it will add transport and other infrastructure links that can be further used to grow economic development indexes in part of the world that need it. Central to this would be unionisation of workers by trade on a global instead of national basis which means the worker in Britain gets economic protectionism but the worker in Thailand gets social protectionism to meet in the middle. Not to mention that a world budget would mean a single world currency and would totally eliminate the notion of rich people "running off to different countries because of too high taxes" which seems to be a major objection some have about corporation tax. Where they going to go? Mars? They could also better distribute raw resources and material management around the world if as I predict robotics has the same effect on the world's economy that industrialisation did.

This is what I believe is best for the human race as a whole. I also think that any party that stood on those ground might get about six votes across the country and three of them would be from people ticking the wrong boxes. In addition, if by some miracle this was adopted in all countries simultaneously then the world's economy would collapse overnight and probably end up in World War 3. You can't just flick a switch and make things like that happen.

So instead you look at where the country is now and what's important. For example, I wouldn't like to go out of Europe because I want MORE federalisation and not less so UKIP is probably off the radar for me unless they made some really attractive promises in their other policies. Outside of that one thing because it's the one concession you make towards your own utopia, you make a judgement call based on the rest of the parties.

I believe that the choice between Tory, Labour and Lib Dems boils down essentially to how you want your money managed in balance to the services that are provided. Looking around the country, or at least in my local areas, I see economic growth and investment starting to come back though the cost of this in a human scale was quite high. Austerity is fine and good but people need a break if only a temporary one. Other people's experience may vary but I understand the idea of voting Labour now to secure the NHS and refund social welfare then bringing back the Tories if necessary in 5 years. My local Labour candidate broke a promise that he made to my face and thus I went with Lib Dem as many of what I think the country needs in the next 5 years are shared by their policies but I'm in an ultra safe Labour seat (~40% majority) so nobody cares what I voted.

Basically there's a difference between person belief and common sense. People should choose which of their deeply held beliefs they are willing to die on a hill for and then compromise on the rest towards the middle, resulting in an equitable result for all concerned. This means not picking a party in advance but instead picking a party based on the changing circumstances as you see them and wrapping up your ego within the membership of this party to the point where you feel people who don't also vote that way are somehow beneath you or are rich people ruining the country. Those forms of narrative are useless and are why people disengage with politics.