The Harry and Meghan fuss

[bluethrunthru]

After watching GMTV this morning i have to say Piers Morgan is a bit of a ****.

It was a joy to watch - a thing of great beauty. Moron being lectured by a man of colour and not being able to take it ha ha ha ha - hope he gets fucking sacked.

 

[BigOscar]

didn't the lover of a certain PM have a baby shower at the start of lockdown? Is Carrie just a would be celeb?

I mean, yes, she obviously is. But in the us it is standard to have a baby shower, so its not remotely surprising or indicative of anything that Megan expected one.

 

[bluemoon32]

I'm not the one saying I want out the limelight and then doing TV interviews. I am not the one saying I am against racism and doing nothing to help combat it.

What I am though is someone who has been falsely accused of something and has first hand experience of how it fucks up your entire life. I also know what it is like to be fucked over by an establishment, even though I had done nothing wrong.

If you accuse someone of something, you better be telling the truth and you better be able to back it up.

Not anymore it isn't, the minute someone throws these sorts of allegations around then that person is guilty in the eyes of many.
I have no real idea if the allegations are true or not, i'd sincerely hope they are false.
IF they are true then i hope those guilty of these things are dragged through the mill.
Innocent until proven guilty isn't a thing anymore in today's social media world

 

[Hart of the Matter]

I have no idea whether they acted against it at the time. Now I may be making a wild assumption here, but I reckon if they had acted against it previously, they would have mentioned it in the interview.

Most families would deal with racism internally. It is these 2 who have made it public. If you make it public then you have to deal with the ramifications. This is not any other family, if it was, they would not be doing this interview in the first place.

Do they want to make a stand against racism or are they using a vague and out of context aspersion of it for their own financial gain.

We basically have a member of the royal family accusing another member of the royal family of racism. This is a big deal, even more so in the current climate, where we are fighting against racism. If a member of the royal family is racist and is making racist remarks, it should be dealt with. If Harry is talking shit then he should be castigated.

They have spoken after months of leaks and stories in the UK press. They have given their narrative. No reason to question their own version of the truth.

I understand why the racism element is causing the most fuss but I have as much concern about the treatment of mental health issues in the 'firm', especially after William, Harry and Kate fronted a campaign and what happened to Dianna. Add in the Queen's protection of Andrew and the smell is very strong and unpleasant as a family.

 

[Saddleworth2]

The key question is why exactly have they given this interview? They have not done it just because they wanted to have a chat and a brew.

Now if they have done it as a publicity stunt and to ultimately earn themselves money, then everything they say should be taken with a pinch of salt as they are only going to say what benefits themselves.

If they have done it to highlight mental health, bullying and racism then fair play to them, they should be lauded. You have to be a little concerned though that they are not prepared to act against any racism they have suffered, but seem happy to cast aspersions against a whole institution.

One thing is certain, they have not done this interview because they were bored. It is also worrying that a couple who wanted to get away from the limelight have chosen to do one of the most high profile interviews in history. Something does not add up here.

If you had years of lies told about you by the red tops, wouldn’t you want to refute some of those lies publicly? Telling your side of the story is a pretty understandable motive I would have thought.

 

[M18CTID]

I'm not the one saying I want out the limelight and then doing TV interviews. I am not the one saying I am against racism and doing nothing to help combat it.

What I am though is someone who has been falsely accused of something and has first hand experience of how it fucks up your entire life. I also know what it is like to be fucked over by an establishment, even though I had done nothing wrong.

If you accuse someone of something, you better be telling the truth and you better be able to back it up.

So if some kid is sexually abused by a nonce and there are no witnesses then they should keep their mouths shut?

 

[Bluemanc100]

The whole thing stinks. The media's hounding of her is disgusting and they should rightly be called out for it. She does not give a fuck about anyone else apart from herself though. It is telling that it is actually her who is being called out for bullying and her own father has said she is full of shit. She has fallen out with her own family and her husband's family, she is the common denominator. They wanted out the limelight and they have achieved this by doing interviews on Oprah, that makes sense.
Now the pair of them have said they are against racism, have been subjected to it, yet are doing absolutely nothing to help tackle it. They have used what might be a totally innocent comment by a family member as as a publicity stunt, to screw a few quid for themselves.
Their comments do not help the fight against racism, they actually harm them. If what they say is true then a high profile person is getting away with racism, if they are not prepared to act on them. If the comments are not true or they have been embellished for financial gain, then they deserve everything they get.
Either stand up against racism and bullying or don't. Don't use it as a vehicle for your own need.

Take a bow son... Great post

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I'm not the one saying I want out the limelight and then doing TV interviews. I am not the one saying I am against racism and doing nothing to help combat it.

What I am though is someone who has been falsely accused of something and has first hand experience of how it fucks up your entire life. I also know what it is like to be fucked over by an establishment, even though I had done nothing wrong.

If you accuse someone of something, you better be telling the truth and you better be able to back it up.

Do you mean Meghan is falsley accusing and she is wrong? Or that the news papers (who did what they did to Sterling) are falsely accusing?

 

[Mike Cledford]

2 very good looking kids and both blues to boot.

So they get City from you and good looks from either mum or dad?
I hope they prove a credit to you all their lives.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Not anymore it isn't, the minute someone throws these sorts of allegations around then that person is guilty in the eyes of many.
I have no real idea if the allegations are true or not, i'd sincerely hope they are false.
IF they are true then i hope those guilty of these things are dragged through the mill.
Innocent until proven guilty isn't a thing anymore in today's social media world

It has been handled badly by all parties.

From the outside looking in, it looks like Harry has wanted out, but it is difficult to just break free. He can't just go on his merry way and get a job delivering from Amazon. Its not his fault that he was born into this family and he has by all accounts, served his family and country well. They should not have cut him adrift and left him to his own devices. Arrangements should have been made in regards to funding security. The pair of them should then have had to sign confidentiality agreements to stop all this happening. This country has squandered billions recently. Harry was well liked and I most people in this country were sympathetic to his cause, I doubt there would have been much uproar from the public if the public purse had cobtributed to keeping him and his family safe, especially if he was using his position to highlighting racism, bullying and mental health.

It seems though that the royal family has called his bluff. He has now realised that security does not come cheap and he needs to keep his family safe. He has now gone and behaved like a hooker with a story to tell.

This is the most ill advised interview in history and he has put himself right in the firing line. If you put yourself in the firing line, then you get shot at. Which is quite ironic considering he is only in this position because he wanted out the firing line.

One thing is certain, he should not be alliwed to accuse persons in the royal familty of racism, on the international stage without validating his claims. He has compounded the issue by stating who it is not, which is like a child playing silly little games. Unfortunately it is a lot more serious than that and there will be kick back. People should not be allowed to fling about accusations willy nilly.

I have a lot of sympathy for Harrys situation and he seems a decent fella, if not the sharpest. I also think the royal family have acted shamelessly and shit on him by totally cutting him adrift. I think she is manipulating the whole situation for her own benefit and in a way I don'r blame her as she has been treated horrendously by the British media. But I think this interview is the worst thing he could have done and in years to come I feel Harry will wnd up the biggest loser from the whole espisode.

When push cones to shove, I will be shocked if this whole episode does not come down to money.